Who's our Babe Ruth, '52 Mantle or T206 Wagner?

[Steeleraddict]

In general anything babe Ruth, 52 topps mantle and to some extent T206 wagner, tho has its own circumstances has steadily increased in value. The dreaded oft used "recession proof". Now even PSA 2,3 mantle cards go for good money. The other lesser HOF value tend to go the way of the economy.

So who is the Holy Grail of our generation?Who is a great investment, given iron clad provenance that will cut thru generations? Has to be an iconic figure. Tiger has taken a beating. More so because of his lack of dominance and Majors. Not his social life. Mick and babe have transcended their social life. Muhammad Ali? Just not enough of his stuff (robes, GU gloves) out there except autographs.

[KGoldin]

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Derek Jeter
It's obvious the Yankee torch has been passed to him! and although not as great as mantle , he is the gold standard in the game used universe, will retire a Yankee! join monument park and no one will ever wear #2 as a Yankee after him

[KGoldin]

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Derek Jeter
It's obvious the Yankee torch has been passed to him! and although not as great as mantle , he is the gold standard in the game used universe, will retire a Yankee! join monument park and no one will ever wear #2 as a Yankee after him

And Michael Jordan
Both

[ChrisCavalier]

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he is the gold standard in the game used universe

Actually, I can think of a few members here that are the gold standard in the game used universe

[Steeleraddict]

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Be interesting to know who they are. Although some may want there anonymity. I'm just glad they're sharing. Wish more would.

[Dewey2007]

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I agree with Ken. As long as Jeter doesn't do anything stupid to tarnish his image he will be our generations Joe DiMaggio type icon. He's a Yankee, has 5 WS rings, & 3,000 hits.

I think Pujols was in that league until he went to the Angels. If he would have stuck with the Cards his entire career he would have been revered.

In basketball it's Jordan, Bird and Magic. In football, I think Brady and Manning are at the head of the class.

[dangerzone79]

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Derek Jeter & Tom Brady. Jeter is obvious for like 1,000 reasons. Brady is now Joe Montana. Also, as much as I detest the Lakers (and basketball in general, haha) does Kobe match up? I know Jordan is number one, but currently does Kobe rank?

[Dewey2007]

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While Kobe is obviously one of the greatest NBA players of all-time, to me he just doesn't fall into the same strata as Magic, Bird & Jordan. Maybe it's generational. I grew up with those three so maybe that makes me a little biased.

Derek Jeter & Tom Brady. Jeter is obvious for like 1,000 reasons. Brady is now Joe Montana. Also, as much as I detest the Lakers (and basketball in general, haha) does Kobe match up? I know Jordan is number one, but currently does Kobe rank?

[both-teams-played-hard]

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While Kobe is obviously one of the greatest NBA players of all-time, to me he just doesn't fall into the same strata as Magic, Bird & Jordan. Maybe it's generational. I grew up with those three so maybe that makes me a little biased.

I disagree. I think Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time. For all L.A. residents a replay of Kobe's 81 point game is on tonight on Time Warner Cable Sportsnet.

[Mac670]

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We'll I have to admit I was always a Kobe Fan, but I always thought Magic was the greatest Laker ever. Until Kobe started to win championships without Shaquille, I realized that quite possibly Kobe was better. Today, hands down, Kobe is the greatest Laker. Why? Because, Magic says he is, Bird says he is the best and Michael Jordan thinks he is the only NBA player that could beat him in a basketball game. Those players opinions are the reason Kobe will go down as the greatest to ever put on the purple and gold.

[ABL228]

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Derek Jeter
It's obvious the Yankee torch has been passed to him! and although not as great as mantle , he is the gold standard in the game used universe, will retire a Yankee! join monument park and no one will ever wear #2 as a Yankee after him

Jeter stuff goes for a super premium because he is a Yankee. He is not even close as good a hitter as Miguel Cabrera. Jeter gets more publicity for running out an infield single than Miggy got for a TRIPLE CROWN!

[Dewey2007]

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No arguments here that Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time. IMO, I believe Magic is the most beloved Laker of all-time (although some might argue Jerry West) and him Bird and Jordan are more iconic then Kobe and their items with iron clad provenance are more desirable then Kobe's 24/7/365.

I disagree. I think Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time. For all L.A. residents a replay of Kobe's 81 point game is on tonight on Time Warner Cable Sportsnet.

[Steeleraddict]

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In 30 yrs a legit GU Jordan I think goes for way more than what a Kobe goes for. Jordan is a worldwide icon. His basketball cards still go for ridiculous prices. I understand Kobe in the LA market and Jeter in NY. But for me I have no desire for jeter. Still like Pujols gear. Too bad he moved. So baseball, hmmm?
Football...manning ESP if he wins in Denver, Montana?

I'm asking what's comparable say for ex a signed Ruth ball. Love to have a legit one. A PSA 7-8 mantle.

[Steeleraddict]

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Maybe one way to look at it is whos faked most...def Jordan gear vs Kobe gear. Tho yes Kobe is faked. But it's hard to find iron clad Jordan GU jersey.

Hence, over $50,000 for the penny marshal/Jordan jersey.

Mid five figures for the Brady jersey from NFL? Six figures for babes jersey

[Dewey2007]

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I think with the overexposure of athletes in this day and age you don't have the legend and lore that go with players like Ruth and Mantle so only time will tell what's comparable.

With that said, I don't think any trading card or auto'd ball of anyone from this day and age will ever approach what those type of players command.

In 30 yrs a legit GU Jordan I think goes for way more than what a Kobe goes for. Jordan is a worldwide icon. His basketball cards still go for ridiculous prices. I understand Kobe in the LA market and Jeter in NY. But for me I have no desire for jeter. Still like Pujols gear. Too bad he moved. So baseball, hmmm?
Football...manning ESP if he wins in Denver, Montana?

I'm asking what's comparable say for ex a signed Ruth ball. Love to have a legit one. A PSA 7-8 mantle.