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johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 01:34 AM
Disclaimer: I would post pictures if I even knew where to start, so instead I will explain what I am seeing.(I will email if requested though!)

I recently bought a 2011 Retro Rickie Weeks jersey(with the stars stars next to the MLB logo signifying that he was an All Star) that was authenticated as game issued. The seller believed it was actually game used and I decided to buy it at a price where I felt like I got a decent deal regardless.

I went to MLB Videos because Weeks hit an inside the park home run during the game he wore this style. The video gave me some incredible close ups and views that I took screenshots of.
After very close inspection EVERYTHING on the jersey lines up to be EXACTLY the same. The jersey being pin stripped helped a lot as you could see the lines disappeared behind the letters in the exact same place on both jerseys which leads me to comfortably say they are in fact the same jersey.

I'm no photo matching expert so I'm just curious what other people think.

If anyone would like some photos to inspect I'd be happy to email them to you as any help is appreciated.

(And thanks to the seller!)

spartakid
01-04-2014, 01:50 AM
Pinstripes make it very easy to photomatch. We'd probably need to see photos of the matches to tell for sure, but if the stripes match up perfectly then you have a match.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 09:50 AM
http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/weeksjersey3.png

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/weeksjersey4.png

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/Weeksjersey.png

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/weeksjersey2.png

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/guweeksjersey.png

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/guweeksjersey3.png

PAC
01-04-2014, 09:51 AM
Ask us to help with a photo match...but don't post any photos...brilliant.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 09:54 AM
Just one thing to note is in my game photos they don't show the yellow around the letters very well so some things might look off...you kind of have to pretend it is there.

PAC
01-04-2014, 09:55 AM
Not the same jersey. Look at the inside of the 2 on the front. There's white jersey showing between the tackle twill and 1st pinstripe on his, but your pinstripe is touching the tackle twill. Lots of other spots where your pinstripes are about an inch farther left. Very similar, but not the same jersey.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 09:57 AM
Ask us to help with a photo match...but don't post any photos...brilliant.

I was more asking if it is an acceptable way to photo match as I have little experience photo matching without loose string, stains etc.

3arod13
01-04-2014, 10:05 AM
The "E" in the game photo image shows a gap between the "E" and the line, but on your jersey, there isn't a gap; it's right on the line.

The middle line of the "E" on the game photo image shows it right on the line, but on your jersey, it crosses over the line.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 10:12 AM
Thank you guys for the help, but both of you guys are missing the yellow border. It shows up looking white in my photos. If you look closely you will see on the blue is truly showing due to poor quality.

If you factor in the yellow border both of the problems you two mentioned are non existent.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 10:13 AM
Thank you guys for the help, but both of you guys are missing the yellow border. It shows up looking white in my photos. If you look closely you will see on the blue is truly showing due to poor quality.

If you factor in the yellow border both of the problems you two mentioned are non existent.

*Only the blue is showing due to poor quality

JDubbs73
01-04-2014, 11:14 AM
I get what you are saying and believe you are on the right track; however, you may need a higher resolution video or photo to be able to substantiate a "solid" match.

Is MLB Videos similar to NFL Game Rewind? A subscription based way to watch HD games? If so, I would imagine you could snap a crisper still from the game(s) it was worn.

Given what you have presented below I could buy into it being a match, but you never want to have to instruct a potential buyer or authenticator to "kind of have to pretend it is there".

zookerman182
01-04-2014, 11:18 AM
Same jersey no doubt.

The yellow not showing up makes a huge difference.

There are too many exact matches with pinstripes from that time period for it not to be a match.

Nicely done

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 11:36 AM
Same jersey no doubt.

The yellow not showing up makes a huge difference.

There are too many exact matches with pinstripes from that time period for it not to be a match.

Nicely done

Thank you for taking your time to take a look and give input!

bgakladd
01-04-2014, 12:02 PM
Here is a photo from a MLB video of Meeks homerun when he is in the dugout. Stopping at around the 36 second section I have a photo. Compare the left sleeve pinstripe running into the horizontal striping on the front of the jersey. Yours shows white spacing. Meeks homerun jersey shows them running into each other. Am I right to say 2 different jerseys? Any opinions anyone?

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 12:19 PM
That top left part you circled is exactly the same. The game jersey has to have the second stripe too if that is what you are red flagging.

The part you circled on the right is something I noticed too at one point, but it is just tricking you mind. It is how it is angled or the jersey is folding. Because I did find a different spot in the video that had the same space I do...thought I posted it, guess not?

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 12:23 PM
Yeah I didn't post the picture that shows the space. I think the picture is right before he goes to sit down on the bench. It is very clear though and I will post the picture if that issue isnt resolved by the time I get back tonight.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 12:25 PM
Also my picture I found showing the spacing is from the Weeks home run.

bgakladd
01-04-2014, 12:29 PM
Hi again, I went back and watched the video again. At the 41 second part when stopped it looks like it goes both ways. It shows white gap, maybe a glare, maybe not, but as he is ready to sit down and the video is stopped again it looks like they run into each other. How about a new photo showing the patch on the sleeve and the pinstripe alignment for that area. See if that can help.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 12:43 PM
Hi again, I went back and watched the video again. At the 41 second part when stopped it looks like it goes both ways. It shows white gap, maybe a glare, maybe not, but as he is ready to sit down and the video is stopped again it looks like they run into each other. How about a new photo showing the patch on the sleeve and the pinstripe alignment for that area. See if that can help.

The jersey is shipped and I'm waiting on it so that's all I have for picture till probably Mon-Tues.

I will get the picture showing the spacing when I get home though.

bgakladd
01-04-2014, 12:56 PM
Look at your shoulder area pinstripes and seams when you get the jersey. Best video frames are when he is ready to sit down. Let me know your thoughts on the striping in the shoulder area, left sleeve on top. Then compare the right side. Post better pics if possible. Good luck.

bgakladd
01-04-2014, 02:54 PM
I saw your Weeks jersey on another thread.....it does actually look like the one he used in the inside the park homerun. Pic showing folds like you said, so until you get it and examine it for yourself, I might be wrong, sorry. Also I referred to him as Meeks, don't know why I did that. Again good luck.

Phil316
01-04-2014, 03:09 PM
Cool jersey by the way :)

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 09:25 PM
Look at your shoulder area pinstripes and seams when you get the jersey. Best video frames are when he is ready to sit down. Let me know your thoughts on the striping in the shoulder area, left sleeve on top. Then compare the right side. Post better pics if possible. Good luck.

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/photo.png

Here you are...this is the picture that shows the space between the vertical and horizontal lines exactly like mine...it also shows the second pinstripe on the shoulder you red flagged earlier since it wasn't showing up.

johnsontravis@ymail.com
01-04-2014, 09:40 PM
Got the Jersey today and decided to snap a picture of the right sleeve. All the pinstripes match up in my opinion.

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/securedownload.png

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg515/TonyPlush/photo-1.jpg?t=1388889955

JDubbs73
01-04-2014, 11:19 PM
All the pinstripes match up in my opinion.
Agreed. Great job and congrats...