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I hate when government buts into our lives. I hate it more when they do it to the sports teams.
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Re: Redskins being forced to change name by US gov
The government isn't forcing them to change the name, so don't jump to that conclusion. The Patent Office's ruling says the team will no longer be able to have exclusive rights to their logo or name written in that text, meaning anybody could sell knockoff Redskins shirts and such (without the NFL logo), and can't be sued for trademark infringement. The Redskins can still use the name and the logo for their team.
I'm not calling you out for this, but some of the comments I've seen from people have been absolutely stupid. People are honestly saying, "we have problems with illegal immigration, Iraq, and the economy, and the government is really concerned with this? Waste of tax money blah blah blah!" Get real.
Go file a trademark application to call a team the Ni**ers or the Fa**ots, and they'll reject it for the same reason they give here. Trademarks with words that are inherently discriminatory.
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The thing I hate/don't understand about all this "Redskins" team name controversy is why NOW. Why even the last 5-10yrs that this is been blown up in the news and by the Native American community.
The "Redskins" team name came into play during the 1930's when the team was formed. Makes ZERO sense why now and even in the 2000's. Why not back years ago. If the team name is that insensitive/discriminatory, then they should've fought it a looooonnngg time ago.
Stupid IMO. Everybody wants to sue somebody these days
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Re: Redskins being forced to change name by US gov
Why not just change the stupid name. It is a pretty dumb name, their uniform or pretty blah to me, and it is pretty offensive to some.
Honestly this is basically forcing them to change it or lose a lot of money. Once people find out about all the knockoffs no one will really want legit gear.Comment
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Miami University here in Ohio changed from the Redskins to Redhawks, no big deal.Comment
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I agree. This same city changed the name of their NBA team by choice to the Wizards from the Bullets because it implied violence. People in the Native nations have come out and said the name not only implies but IS offensive to them and the team is up in arms.
Playing Devils Advocate: If the Irish Anti-Defamation League came out and claimed calling the team from Notre Dame the "Fighting" Irish implied they were easily roused to fisticuffs because they are alcoholic brawlers, would anyone take them seriously? Lets not forget, the term Paddywagon was coined for the police van used to round up the drunk and disorderly because of the negative slang term for the Irish is "Paddy".Comment
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Are there any hard numbers as to how many are offended? Almost every team name could offend someone, somehow.
Today on SiriusXM's NFL Channel, the morning show had an Indian Chief (I forget his full name) who stated he likes the name and would be offended if they changed it. Why is his opinion so easily dismissed?Comment
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Someone should tell the Indians that the Redskin and NFL fans pay millions in taxes. You know that money they get for doing nothing. Their lives are a cake walk because of Redskin s(the Indian ones)...They should be honored and idol them.
Why is it a big deal? Can't we just ignore them like usual?Comment
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Re: Redskins being forced to change name by US gov
My solution? Rename the team the Washington Pig-Skins. Here's why:
Washington has a long history of heavyset fans coming to games dressed as "Hogs" wearing pig noses and ears. "Hogs" is already a nickname established by the die hard fan base. This new nickname just embellishes it.
Second, its hyphenated. No one needs to stop referring to the team by their current abbreviated nickname, the "Skins"
Lastly, it's a rather clever use of double entendre: a Porcine outer organ and another term for a football.
Problem. Solved.
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Seems like Snyder just wants to keep the name, because he wants to "win" even if the win is meaningless........I doubt hes losing money as is on merchandise sales and if they renamed, think of all the people who would be buying new gear? I know revenue from merchandise is split amongst the teams besides the Cowboys, but either way, it won't hurt them.
If he really wants to tighten the screws and irk some PC people, change it to the Washington Tea-party or something like that
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Re: Redskins being forced to change name by US gov
Native Americans wore the Redskin name with pride for hundreds of years. Anyone who cares to study the writings of the day and study history will know this. They were proud to not be white or black for that matter. They were proud to be red.
It has just been in the last little while that certain groups decided to be offended by it.
I say change it and let them be forgotten the way they want to be. They decide to live on welfare behind lines on a map. They decide to raise their children in poverty instead of going out into the world like every other race and bettering themselves. I am tired of feeling sorry for people who never try to help themselves.Comment
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After spending years studying Native culture in college and teaching in two different Indian (their term) school districts, I wish I could refute any part of this post.
That being said, in today's climate, they are making a case for prejudice and there is no way it won't be heard. Right, wrong? Who cares. That's just the world we live in today.
Next the Indians will fall. Then the Braves. Finally, schools like FSU who have done more to champion the Seminole tribe's cause since 1892 than every other Native American group combined, will be forced to change AGAINST the wishes of actual Florida Seminoles.
I think we need MORE names of indigenous tribes associated with sports teams and schools. The history of said tribes should be taught and celebrated and thus they survive.
But that won't happen. Roady is right, their cultures are going to be eliminated by stupid PC driven rhetoric and a collective wallowing pity party pretending to be pride.Comment
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Wow - could you be more of a racist?
Maybe you should learn your history - where the whites (including some of my ancestors) came and STOLE their land from them and then put them on 'Reservations'... and when they discovered oil or other minerals with monetary value, they took the land back and moved them to other 'Reservations'...
Yes, they DECIDED to live 'behind lines on a map'...
Even now, when many tribes have educated themselves and used the law in their favor (Sovereign Nation) to build Casinos and such, to make money to pull their tribes out of poverty, the whites (particularly Las Vegas, Atlantic City, etc) lobby the state and federal congresses to block them from building Casinos on their lands...
Regardless of the Topic of this thread, I personally found your post to vile, repulsive and in very bad taste.Comment
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I am not racist. I am a realist and I realize the Indians decide to live on the Rez and not go out into the world and improve their station in life. This despite special programs to help them do it.
They were the first welfare recipients and it has ruined them for generations. Most will not work. Most will not go to college. Most will not do anything.
Their young are leaving in droves because the Rez is a death trap that their parents decide to live on instead of assimilating into society like everyone else.
Your comments do not affect me in the least. I know what is really going and it is not a Disney movie like you think it is.
Just like modern Americans did not enslave anyone, none of us were at Wounded Knee.
They have every advantage anyone could have to better themselves and most refuse to do it.Comment
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Re: Redskins being forced to change name by US gov
Well, Skizzick, I'll call YOU out on this: When you say "the team will no longer be able to have exclusive rights to their logo or name written in that text, meaning anybody could sell knockoff Redskins shirts and such (without the NFL logo), and can't be sued for trademark infringement," you are, in effect, saying they WILL have to change their name if the ruling withstands their appeal.
Saying they don't have to change their name, they just face the loss of tens of millions of dollars in merchandise licensing revenue, and the myriad headaches opportunists will cost them by pretending to be affiliated with the team, is silly. Obviously a billion dollar company needs to be able to own its own name. Give me a break.
It has nothing to do with the government not having other things to concern itself with. It's all about an assault on capitalism, taking a shot at the 1% owners, curtailing free speech that someone wants to say is "offensive," and basically, just another government power grab. Do you think this is the end of government seizing intellectual property from businesses it may not like? If you do it's time for YOU to get real.
I agree, you probably wouldn't be successful filing a trademark application with a name like Redskins today. But that's a whole different situation than taking away a trademark that has been in effect for the better part of a century.
And, by the way, I see and hear people say things every day that offend me. I either engage them in a respectful debate, or I just let it go. I don't try to use the force of government to prevent them from expressing their views (and costing them millions and millions of dollars in the process.)Comment
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