New User Here with a question about steiner

[mreph]

I have brought many game used Steiner Sports products and have seen that all there holograms have a number accompanied with them. Does Steiner have a database with all the numbers somewhere?

Thanks for any help

[Roady]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

I have brought many game used Steiner Sports products and have seen that all there holograms have a number accompanied with them. Does Steiner have a database with all the numbers somewhere?

Thanks for any help

If they have a database I have not seen it. The hologram without the paper COA from Steiner is just about worthless I would assume. And even with the paper the hologram and paper could probably be forged.

Someone else can correct me if I am wrong.

[mreph]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

Yeah I guess you're right anyone could forge their hologram if they wanted to. I was just trying to find a date that it was used so I can get a photomatch

[Roady]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

Yeah I guess you're right anyone could forge their hologram if they wanted to. I was just trying to find a date that it was used so I can get a photomatch

I don't believe they have a place to look up their numbers.
I am sure someone else will probably know more. Hopefully they will chime in soon.

[marino13]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

1. There is a database for all the hologram but they are for internal use only.


2. As for forging the hologram, that would not be easy. But tampering with the hologram ..... I have seen some lousy tampering jobs!

[Roady]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

1. There is a database for all the hologram but they are for internal use only.


2. As for forging the hologram, that would not be easy. But tampering with the hologram ..... I have seen some lousy tampering jobs!

I have called Steiner with a number and asked them to look it up. The person on the other end said that he could not and that they do not keep a database of the numbers and what they correspond to.
Are you saying they really do keep a database and you have proof of this or have they told you this in person or over the phone?

[marino13]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

I have called Steiner with a number and asked them to look it up. The person on the other end said that he could not and that they do not keep a database of the numbers and what they correspond to.
Are you saying they really do keep a database and you have proof of this or have they told you this in person or over the phone?

You called in --- this would means it is no longer INTERNAL.


And I will leave it at that.

[Roady]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

A real answer would be more helpful.

[Roady]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

Steiner told me there is no way to check hologram numbers except with the corresponding letter. They said that they don't have the hologram numbers recorded anywhere at all.

So if anyone else knows about this "internal" list let us know.

[marino13]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

You can always get a job with the company and then you tell me.


Again, there is a database and it is for internal use only. It is NOT for tracking or anything else. It is for INTERNAL use only. If you dont know what that means or need clearer answer, I dont know what to tell you.

PS. I have never worked for the company. If I did, I will never getting any bills paid since I will be using my employee's discount on the gamer.

[Hoosier39]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

You can always get a job with the company and then you tell me.


Again, there is a database and it is for internal use only. It is NOT for tracking or anything else. It is for INTERNAL use only. If you dont know what that means or need clearer answer, I dont know what to tell you.

PS. I have never worked for the company. If I did, I will never getting any bills paid since I will be using my employee's discount on the gamer.

I get what you're saying, but that does no one any good. Basically if you buy a bat with a sticker but no letter, you're SOL. They have a sticker with numbers, yet no database available to the public. Makes perfect sense.

[marino13]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

I get what you're saying, but that does no one any good. Basically if you buy a bat with a sticker but no letter, you're SOL. They have a sticker with numbers, yet no database available to the public. Makes perfect sense.

Why would you bat a bat with just a sticker?




With all my game used bat from steiner - all of them has letters and holograms, some even have MLB holograms and the letter that stated the MLB number!

[Hoosier39]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

Why would you bat a bat with just a sticker?




With all my game used bat from steiner - all of them has letters and holograms, some even have MLB holograms and the letter that stated the MLB number!

Because some people sell bats with the sticker only because they lost the letter? Happens all the time.

[Roady]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

You can always get a job with the company and then you tell me.


Again, there is a database and it is for internal use only. It is NOT for tracking or anything else. It is for INTERNAL use only. If you dont know what that means or need clearer answer, I dont know what to tell you.

PS. I have never worked for the company. If I did, I will never getting any bills paid since I will be using my employee's discount on the gamer.

I believe you are full of BS.

And I know of no one here or anywhere is has ever spouted the BS you're spouting.
You offer zero proof and only come back with childish post.

BS

[Roady]

Re: New User Here with a question about steiner

Just a follow up to this.
I did some digging in old GUU threads about this and found this......

http://www.gameuseduniverse.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?p=50263

This is form 2007, thats 2007 mind you.

"BCowan40 BCowan40 is offline
Junior Member

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 12
Default Re: Anyone's Steiner Holograms entered into the database?
I can confirm that all numbered game used and game issued holograms issued on items through our team partnerships are indeed recorded and cataloged internally before shipment of an item. We do have every intention of eventually making this available to view through www.steinersports.com as it is done on mlb.com. Please keep in mind though this is a significant undertaking and remains a work in progress. At this time I do not have a date to announce when this will be completed but I do assure you all that we have every intention of eventually making this a reality. I'll make sure you are all informed when this is finished.

Brooks Cowan"

So Mr. Cowan did confirm that they have an internal database and was supposed to make it public in the future, from 2007.
Guess they decided not to make it public and I can confirm if you call now that they will tell you they do not keep an internal database.

And I am not the only one who got this answer.
This is from 2009...

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=26840

"Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 445
Default Re: Will Steiner confirm authentication numbers go with an item if you call them?
You guys both were right. Steiner does have a hologram lookup on their site but it doesn't work at all and I called them today and they say there is no way to check hologram numbers except with the corresponding letter (which is lost on the item I am trying to check on). They don't have the hologram numbers recorded anywhere at all.

I hope everyone that puts so much stock in 'Steiner authenticity' understands they have a system in place that has no way of being checked/confirmed. An item may have a hologram on it but without the letter you have no way of knowing if the item has been altered, a generic cap that has had someone's number added to it later, a game issue jersey that has had use added, a game issue bat that has had use added to it etc., etc."

And there are more threads from GUU that confirm the same answer I was given.