Mike Schmidt Game Used Cap on eBay

[stepback2000]

Hello Everyone, I would like to know your opinions of this game used Schmidt cap listed
on eBay. There is a COA but this only guarantees the autograph. Schmidts last season was 1989. When did the Phillies start using New Era caps with a grey undervisor instead of green? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Mike

[Tallyman77]

Mike......the Phillies started using the grey undervisors in 1990 according to the website www.prosportscollectors.com (http://www.prosportscollectors.com) ....... go to the Phillies cap section and you will see this stated.

Thanks,

-Walt

Tallyman77

[danesei@yahoo.com]

My understanding has always been that the Phillies changed back to grey (from green) in 1992.

Schmidt cap mentioned by OP misrepresented as 1980s game used (1992-1993 underbrim and tagging):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121405851362

The same seller has a Ripken game ready bat (per the LOA) that is being sold as game used.

[Tallyman77]

Danesei.......in saying that the Schmidt cap is 1992-1993, you missed the fact that it does not have the MLB batterman emblem on the back, which began in 1992. So this cap is definitely pre-1992. Please refer to www.prosportscollectors.com (http://www.prosportscollectors.com) under the Phillies cap section concerning green bill vs. grey bill caps. Also, research the history of New Era caps and you will find this information. Thanks.

-Walt

Tallyman77

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Danesei.......in saying that the Schmidt cap is 1992-1993, you missed the fact that it does not have the MLB batterman emblem on the back, which began in 1992. So this cap is definitely pre-1992. Please refer to www.prosportscollectors.com (http://www.prosportscollectors.com) under the Phillies cap section concerning green bill vs. grey bill caps. Also, research the history of New Era caps and you will find this information. Thanks.

-Walt

Tallyman77

That's a good point Walt. I didn't even see the back of the cap. BTW, this is on a side note, has anyone ever taken the sticker off of a 1992 cap? Is there residue where the sticker/patch would have been? Did those stickers ever fall off?

[Tallyman77]

The emblems on the back of caps were glued on in 1992 and then stitched on thereafter. I have never heard of one simply falling off, but I have seen some that were pulled off and it left a very obvious outline with some residue. Do you think there was once one on the Ebay Phillies cap?

Thanks,

-Walt

Tallyman77

[danesei@yahoo.com]

The emblems on the back of caps were glued on in 1992 and then stitched on thereafter. I have never heard of one simply falling off, but I have seen some that were pulled off and it left a very obvious outline with some residue. Do you think there was once one on the Ebay Phillies cap?

Thanks,

-Walt

Tallyman77

Oh, no. It was more of a curiosity, since I know that New Era used to apply the logo with an adhesive when it first appeared.

[Tallyman77]

The picture of the Phillies cap showing the backside shows no outline or residue and I truly believe it never had the MLB emblem, making it pre-1992.......but still somewhat confusing.

Thanks,

-Walt

Tallyman77