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  • Roady
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1430

    Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

    Should Pete Rose's lifetime ban from baseball be reversed?

    81%
    Yes
    19%
    No
    Discuss (Total votes: 170,988)
  • Hoosier39
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 365

    #2
    Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

    25yrs is long enough for what he did. I say let the guy in while he's still here.

    They should also take a poll of all members of the HOF and if they think he deserves in, then he should be put back on the ballot. Or somethin like that....

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    • ironmanfan
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2005
      • 2252

      #3
      Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

      Originally posted by Hoosier39
      25yrs is long enough for what he did. I say let the guy in while he's still here.

      They should also take a poll of all members of the HOF and if they think he deserves in, then he should be put back on the ballot. Or somethin like that....
      I think if they polled the existing members of the Hall of Fame, the overwhelming majority of them would be against it.

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      • Hoosier39
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 365

        #4
        Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

        Originally posted by ironmanfan
        I think if they polled the existing members of the Hall of Fame, the overwhelming majority of them would be against it.

        I think you're right. And if that's correct, then it would tough letting him in when the majority are against it.

        Then again, that might not be fair for Rose.

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        • Roady
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 1430

          #5
          Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

          Originally posted by ironmanfan
          I think if they polled the existing members of the Hall of Fame, the overwhelming majority of them would be against it.
          Let's take a poll to find out instead of guessing.
          I have only talked to a handful of HOFers but never asked them about it.
          How many have you asked?

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          • Hoosier39
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 365

            #6
            Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

            Originally posted by Roady
            Let's take a poll to find out instead of guessing.
            I have only talked to a handful of HOFers but never asked them about it.
            How many have you asked?
            I was listening to the radio a couple days ago and I think they said F. Robinson is very much against it. Not sure if that was all, but that's who I heard in the small clip. Very curious about the other members.

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            • Roady
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 1430

              #7
              Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

              Originally posted by Hoosier39
              I was listening to the radio a couple days ago and I think they said F. Robinson is very much against it. Not sure if that was all, but that's who I heard in the small clip. Very curious about the other members.
              I would be very curious to hear all of their opinions also.

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              • brianborsch
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 1704

                #8
                Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                If anyone should be let in, it should be Joe Jackson. He was proven innocent and he is still banned?! On top of that he is dead! Even a criminal prinoer's sentence is considered served at death, yet Joe Jackson is still banned years after he has passed?! Simply absurd. If Rose gets in, then Jackson better be allowed in too.

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                • Roady
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1430

                  #9
                  Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                  Originally posted by brianborsch
                  If anyone should be let in, it should be Joe Jackson. He was proven innocent and he is still banned?! On top of that he is dead! Even a criminal prinoer's sentence is considered served at death, yet Joe Jackson is still banned years after he has passed?! Simply absurd. If Rose gets in, then Jackson better be allowed in too.
                  There are a lot of good books written on the Black Sox. It is very interesting and I have wavered over the years between his innocence and his guilt.
                  He was found innocent in a court of law but the Commissioner had the right to ban him if he chose based on what the Commissioner believed at the time.
                  Right or wrong at least Landis made a decision unlike Selig does.

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                  • godwulf
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1864

                    #10
                    Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                    If Rose had ever bet against a team that he was playing for or managing, I'd say let the lifetime ban follow him to the grave; that's not the case. Given the negative role that gambling played in Baseball's early days, it's understandable that MLB should have a bug up its butt, to some degree, about gambling - but attitudes about it have changed in the past fifty years, have they not?

                    In the early '80s, both Mantle and Mays were placed by Commissioner Bowie Kuhn on the "permanently ineligible" list for being associated in some way with a gambling casino.

                    This Day In History: February 8, 1983 On this day in history, 1983, Mickey Mantle was threatened by the commissioner of baseball, Bowie Kuhn, that if he didn’t stop working for the Claridge Casino in Atlantic City, he’d be put on baseball’s permanently ineligible list, which meant he’d be banned from any Major or Minor League Baseball related activities including [...]


                    Today, some MLB teams - and I'm thinking of my own team, the Diamondbacks in particular - have casinos as major sponsors.

                    I don't know, when people debate about who does or does not belong in the HoF because of off-field conduct - me, I always think about that racist nutcase Ty Cobb, and I think that puts certain things in perspective.
                    Jeff
                    godwulf1@cox.net

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                    • Roady
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1430

                      #11
                      Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                      Originally posted by godwulf
                      If Rose had ever bet against a team that he was playing for or managing, I'd say let the lifetime ban follow him to the grave; that's not the case.

                      I don't know, when people debate about who does or does not belong in the HoF because of off-field conduct - me, I always think about that racist nutcase Ty Cobb, and I think that puts certain things in perspective.
                      I agree about Rose.

                      You should do more homework on Ty Cobb. A lot of people let the book of a broke writer, later turned into a fantasy movie, influence their idea of Cobb. The same writer who wrote a totally different book about Cobb when Cobb was alive.
                      There is no evidence that Cobb was a racist. He used be praised by the early black players and there are many pics of Cobb with young black players such as Hank Aaron.

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                      • johnsontravis@ymail.com
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 479

                        #12
                        Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                        But how does he get into the hall of fame even if unbanned? He is past his eligibility so they would have to make a special exception etc. It isn't like getting unbanned is his golden ticket.

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                        • Roady
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 1430

                          #13
                          Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                          Originally posted by johnsontravis@ymail.com
                          But how does he get into the hall of fame even if unbanned? He is past his eligibility so they would have to make a special exception etc. It isn't like getting unbanned is his golden ticket.
                          Veterans committee

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                          • helf35
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 1134

                            #14
                            Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                            I have seen interviews with Bench and Schmidt and I know they both want him in. I'm sure the majority of the guys that played with him would like to see him in. I think the real question is what are the guys opinions from the 80's go present day?

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                            • Skizzick
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 287

                              #15
                              Re: Pete Rose poll on ESPN front page

                              Originally posted by Hoosier39
                              I was listening to the radio a couple days ago and I think they said F. Robinson is very much against it. Not sure if that was all, but that's who I heard in the small clip. Very curious about the other members.
                              Robinson is a known curmudgeon who has been very vocal about Pete not getting into the Hall. Unfortunately he's on the Veterans Committee. I doubt the others are that against it, especially considering Joe Morgan is one of them.

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