James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

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  • Eric
    Senior Member
    • Jan 1970
    • 2848

    James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

    Here is an experience I had with a Casey Stengel signed, game used autographed baseball which was authenticated by James Spence and sold by James Spence to the person who sold it to me. It came with a lifetime guarantee FROM JAMES SPENCE. It was subsequently sent to JSA who rejected it.
    My story is here.



    Eric
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  • commando
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 1234

    #2
    Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

    Ahhh, the good ol' days of 1993. No accountability and lots of shadows.
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    • bd300
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 104

      #3
      Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

      3rd party authentication companys are a scam. I would never trust their certificates. I can't believe that so many serious collectors do.

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      • Eric
        Senior Member
        • Jan 1970
        • 2848

        #4
        Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

        I guess what was comforting was that Spence was such a high profile guy, and he believed so much in what he sold that he'd back it up FOREVER!
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        • danesei@yahoo.com
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 1018

          #5
          Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

          Originally posted by Eric
          Here is an experience I had with a Casey Stengel signed, game used autographed baseball which was authenticated by James Spence and sold by James Spence to the person who sold it to me. It came with a lifetime guarantee FROM JAMES SPENCE. It was subsequently sent to JSA who rejected it.
          My story is here.



          Eric
          Did you try contacting Spence to initiate the lifetime guarantee? I'm curious on how he'd deal with settling the dispute, since his own company is saying that it's a fake.

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          • Eric
            Senior Member
            • Jan 1970
            • 2848

            #6
            Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

            Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
            Did you try contacting Spence to initiate the lifetime guarantee? I'm curious on how he'd deal with settling the dispute, since his own company is saying that it's a fake.
            His own company told me to go to the person I bought it from since they technically had nothing to do with it, even though their owner is the person who made the guarantee.

            Have not heard back from Mr. Spence.

            JSA also suggested that I try to get the 1993 invoice from the defunct company I bought it from, which seems very unlikely to happen.
            Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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            • 3arod13
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 3092

              #7
              Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

              Originally posted by Eric
              His own company told me to go to the person I bought it from since they technically had nothing to do with it, even though their owner is the person who made the guarantee.

              Have not heard back from Mr. Spence.

              JSA also suggested that I try to get the 1993 invoice from the defunct company I bought it from, which seems very unlikely to happen.
              This is ridiculous! Since James Spence authenticated the ball, he should take the ball back and give you what you paid. No questions asked! Especially considering you have written and signed documentation from him, no matter how long ago it was. End of story!! If not, take this story to the media. So, so sick of this!!
              Regards, Tony

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              • seanbaseball
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 792

                #8
                Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                ITS POSSIBLE HE GOES TO AUTHENTICATE HIS OWN LETTER AND SIGNATURE AND SAYS IT DOESNT PASS. LOL

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                • Eric
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 1970
                  • 2848

                  #9
                  Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                  Originally posted by 3arod13
                  This is ridiculous! Since James Spence authenticated the ball, he should take the ball back and give you what you paid. No questions asked! Especially considering you have written and signed documentation from him, no matter how long ago it was. End of story!! If not, take this story to the media. So, so sick of this!!
                  I agree. both people in this case offered "lifetime guarantees" and both people are giving reasons why they won't acknowledge those lifetime guarantees.
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                  • gingi79
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1195

                    #10
                    Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                    Originally posted by 3arod13
                    This is ridiculous! Since James Spence authenticated the ball, he should take the ball back and give you what you paid. No questions asked! Especially considering you have written and signed documentation from him, no matter how long ago it was. End of story!! If not, take this story to the media. So, so sick of this!!

                    I agree. I'd make as much noise as possible about the entire story. He hand wrote his personal Lifetime guarantee and now he himself says it's not real!?!

                    I'd contact a lawyer and then the Press and tell everyone I could on autograph boards and sports boards.He admitted he screwed up but takes no responsibility for it so what is his opinion about autographs worth now?

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                    • Phil316
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 1878

                      #11
                      Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                      Interesting story.

                      I wonder if the "lifetime" guarantee means for the life of the company. Since he has a new company the guarantee would not apply.

                      Eric please update this post with any resolution. Will pass this story/link around.

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                      • rufusandherschel
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 159

                        #12
                        Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                        Originally posted by gingi79
                        I agree. I'd make as much noise as possible about the entire story.

                        Bupkis.
                        +1. Out the . . . . . . !

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                        • nevrdiez34
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 596

                          #13
                          Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                          It looks like the word is spreading, Darren Rovell just tweeted the link this morning...
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                          • Eric
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 1970
                            • 2848

                            #14
                            Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                            UPDATE:
                            James Spence has reached out to me and offered to discuss the matter when he returns to his office on Friday. He says it will give us the chance to "resolve this matter properly."

                            Hopefully he will do the right thing...
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                            • swainer
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 344

                              #15
                              Re: James Spence's "Lifetime Guarantee"

                              Great news Eric! I see Steve Grad retweeted your tweet about the story. Those in glass houses....

                              Good luck bud!
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