A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

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  • suicide_squeeze
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1442

    A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

    Nice tape job. No doubt done by Ken himself.

    Ken Norton Jr., possibly.

    Or maybe Ken from the famous duo of "Ken & Barbie". But not Ken Griffey Jr.



    This appears to be a Jr. pro model bat signed by Ken Griffey Jr. likely at a private signing (short of a good picture at the right angle, and without the bat in my hands I can't tell if there is a filled-in underline below the "125", a tell-tale indicator of a "signature bat"). Regardless, the bat could have been one of a group ordered for the purposes of the signing. The reason I suspect that to be the case is the signature was placed on the sweet spot level, with care and consideration, something Griffey Jr. would do under a controlled environment and for financial consideration. It does not share the typical slant positioning you'd find with his signature normally seen on his game used bats (also often accompanied by inscriptions).

    The "game use" and tape job? Disgraceful. And I would bet added after the signature was placed. I own three Griffey Jr. game used home run bats. The taping characteristics of this bat don't appear to be performed with the same effort. Even the tape width appears "off".

    Did I forget to mention this is all my opinion?

    Steve
  • KGoldin
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1672

    #2
    Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

    interesting there are 3 pictures of the JSA LOA for the AUTOGRAPH, but no picture of the Mariners LOA he refers to in title and description

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    • danesei@yahoo.com
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 1018

      #3
      Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

      It's clearly filled in:

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      • Phil316
        Senior Member
        • May 2013
        • 1878

        #4
        Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

        Originally posted by KGoldin
        interesting there are 3 pictures of the JSA LOA for the AUTOGRAPH, but no picture of the Mariners LOA he refers to in title and description
        Ken,

        It's just a poorly worded description but no Mariners LOA is included. At the end of the description he says "COA = Jsa LOA with item"

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        • suicide_squeeze
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1442

          #5
          Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

          Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
          It's clearly filled in:

          And there you have it.

          danesei,

          Assuming you emailed the seller and asked for a close up of the label? Nice job.

          Steve

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          • bat_master
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2005
            • 514

            #6
            Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

            Actually I was the one that let them know that it would fail authentication for game use. The picture of the center label was added to listing at my request to confirm what I suspected had been done to the bat.
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            Tim Byington
            Hall of Fame Bats
            tim@hofbats.com

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            • suicide_squeeze
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 1442

              #7
              Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

              Originally posted by KGoldin
              interesting there are 3 pictures of the JSA LOA for the AUTOGRAPH, but no picture of the Mariners LOA he refers to in title and description
              If there was, then it would be outright fraud instead of just a cheap attempt at finding a rookie collector to bite on this bat sporting a disgracefully poor patch job while deceitfully lying as the two-bit crook he is......IMO.

              Steve

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              • bat_master
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2005
                • 514

                #8
                Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

                In the seller's defense...they would have to be the dumbest forger in the industry to have filled in the underline and then post a close up photo of it in the listing.

                In exchanging emails with them they even asked me what a center label was. I believe they just had no idea.
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                Tim Byington
                Hall of Fame Bats
                tim@hofbats.com

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                • suicide_squeeze
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1442

                  #9
                  Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

                  Originally posted by bat_master
                  In the seller's defense...they would have to be the dumbest forger in the industry to have filled in the underline and then post a close up photo of it in the listing.

                  In exchanging emails with them they even asked me what a center label was. I believe they just had no idea.
                  You're a kind soul. And maybe just a tad naive to the memorabilia hobby?

                  Check out the seller's feedback history. they deal in sports memorabilia. Ignorance as to what they are selling is not a defense, it's a ploy.

                  You do deserve cudos for asking them to post the picture. But now they have ended the auction. I guess that "ignorance" has turned into something else. Did they do that to protect the turd selling it through them? Or their reputation? Honestly, I don't care. We're just here to help our fellow collectors and the fact the auction is shut down is good enough for me.

                  On the brighter side, I'm contacting this ebay seller now. I have a military friend who for years has been wanting to sell some old left over c4 explosives. Can't wait to tell my friend I've found his guy.

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                  • suicide_squeeze
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1442

                    #10
                    Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

                    Since ebay listing evaporate into internet space in short order, I am posting the pictures from the auction here so there is record of it for future viewers.

                    Steve
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                    • BMH
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1377

                      #11
                      Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

                      Almost all of his bats have the "Smith Finish" where the bat two layers of wood filler applied from the Center brand up before it is dipped in black. This really hides the grain of the bat. This bat does not have it.
                      Brian Hillerich

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                      • salukidave
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 310

                        #12
                        Re: A Ken Griffey Jr. G.U. bat fiasco

                        While we're on the subject, BMH, could you please tell me what bats Griffey ordered from July 31 to Oct. 1 during his stint with the White Sox in 2008? Was "Swingman" on the bat? Any with "Chicago White Sox"?

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