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  • seanbaseball
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 792

    People selling stuff they dont own!

    So I am asked by a guy that lists endless bats on ebay (mostly issued or junk) and I wont give his name buy it rhymes with "Cane", what players I'm looking for. I provide him a list and one of the players is Maris. He sends me a link to a PSA 10 bat of Maris he'd sell to me for $10,000(dumb price). I was out of town but just looked at the link and the bat looked familiar so I head to John Taubes site and what do you know theres the exact same bat for $7,899 LOL! I don't have an issue with someone making a profit on me as it happens all the time but is it quite sleezy and dumb to offer a bat you don't own and that's on a well known site that many collectors go to?
    When I call the seller out on this he acknowledges its the same bat and says "yes I do this for a living I don't work for free". When I question that this is kinda a cheesy way to make a living he then email back that I'm pathetic. LOL LOve some people.
  • jojac
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 110

    #2
    Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

    That seems to be the way business is being done these days. If you check out sportsmemorabilia com's monster site you'll see that a large number of items they're offering are cheaper when you go and check the sites of the original listing companies. You'll also see that they use the same photo's of the item as listed on the original sites and just add a premium to the price. I guess they must look at it as a finders fee.
    I'm not sure but I believe sportsmemorabilia com is owned by Fanatics.

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    • metsbats
      Moderator
      • Nov 2005
      • 3840

      #3
      Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

      Our friend at the Highland Mint is nortorious for this selling technique.
      metsbats86@aol.com

      Always looking for 1973,1986,1988,1999,2000,2006 game used Mets post season and Bobby M. Jones and Ed Hearn NY Mets game used bats.

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      • earlywynnfan
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1271

        #4
        Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

        Just to play devil's advocate, if you send someone a want list and they hunt an item down for you, you don't feel they're entitled to be paid for the service? Are you anti- car dealer and travel agent, too?

        If I could actually support my family by buying and selling bats, I'd be doing it, too!

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        • Jags Fan Dan
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 1638

          #5
          Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

          Originally posted by earlywynnfan
          Just to play devil's advocate, if you send someone a want list and they hunt an item down for you, you don't feel they're entitled to be paid for the service? Are you anti- car dealer and travel agent, too?

          If I could actually support my family by buying and selling bats, I'd be doing it, too!
          But if you tell me you need a lawn mower and I offer you one from Home Depot at a 25% mark-up, you're going to drive to the store and buy it for 25% less. It isn't like he ventured through the dark recesses of a volcanic crater to find it. I bet a Google search would have eventually, if not immediately, turned it up.

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          • metsbats
            Moderator
            • Nov 2005
            • 3840

            #6
            Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

            The bat on John's site comes with a PSA authentication letter but nowhere does it state it's graded a PSA10. Where did that come from?
            metsbats86@aol.com

            Always looking for 1973,1986,1988,1999,2000,2006 game used Mets post season and Bobby M. Jones and Ed Hearn NY Mets game used bats.

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            • ivo610
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 692

              #7
              Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

              Originally posted by earlywynnfan
              Just to play devil's advocate, if you send someone a want list and they hunt an item down for you, you don't feel they're entitled to be paid for the service? Are you anti- car dealer and travel agent, too?

              If I could actually support my family by buying and selling bats, I'd be doing it, too!
              Its one thing to say hey I know where I can get you one... its a whole nother thing to say youll sell something thats owned by someone else and not mention you dont actually own it.

              No one wants lists floating around of stuff they own for sale.
              Ryan

              NFL game used collector

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              • VanPoppelFan
                Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 39

                #8
                Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

                I think I know who you're talking about. I'm not a huge fan, either. I know I've asked for providence in the past and received a tepid response that seemed to infer that I should be happy with their unwritten vouching for the generic-looking bat/item, based on their name being a known one in the industry. I got the sense of a rather inflated sense of self-importance combined with a lukewarm interest in the actual hobby compared to their interest in the almighty dollar.

                If that's your thing, so be it. I definitely understand how business works and all of that jazz, but it's certainly not the type of individual I prefer to do business with on game-used stuff, and I understand how you feel, OP.

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                • seanbaseball
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 792

                  #9
                  Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

                  Originally posted by VanPoppelFan
                  I think I know who you're talking about. I'm not a huge fan, either. I know I've asked for providence in the past and received a tepid response that seemed to infer that I should be happy with their unwritten vouching for the generic-looking bat/item, based on their name being a known one in the industry. I got the sense of a rather inflated sense of self-importance combined with a lukewarm interest in the actual hobby compared to their interest in the almighty dollar.

                  If that's your thing, so be it. I definitely understand how business works and all of that jazz, but it's certainly not the type of individual I prefer to do business with on game-used stuff, and I understand how you feel, OP.
                  That really sums it up. Again I know profit is what makes the world go round
                  but this guy is really a piece of work. To be clear the seller said he may have some of the items I'm looking for so I gave him a list. I wasn't looking for him to find me stuff cuz I'm too lazy to search google. Jeff Scott as an example has sold me many items in the past but has also connected me with a seller of an item that I want free of charge. Good business.

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                  • seanbaseball
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 792

                    #10
                    Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

                    Originally posted by metsbats
                    The bat on John's site comes with a PSA authentication letter but nowhere does it state it's graded a PSA10. Where did that come from?

                    The "middleman" sent me a link to the PSA code lookup that identifies it as a psa 10.

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                    • Swoboda4
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1621

                      #11
                      Re: People selling stuff they dont own!

                      Speaking of this. E-bay seller "Onemetsfan4life" is a total fake. Nothing he sells he has. I was burned by him and for some reason he refunded Paypal, Stupid me (and lucky me). Do not be fooled by his "perfect" feedback. His misspellings should be tip off #1. Ask for another photo of the item ,it won't happen. I don't know what his problem is, and I don't care other than no members get burned.

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