Is Lampson in hiding?

**both-teams-played-hard** · 03-06-2007, 02:55 AM

America's Roast Beef, Yes Sir!

Originally posted by lund6771

...when an issue comes up the guy is a ghost...Money must be good for the Ghost...

I just got this glass at Arby's.

**BoneRubbedBat** · 03-06-2007, 11:25 AM

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go to MSN.com and click on White Pages. Enter L for the first name and Lampson for the last. Choose Georgia for the state and hit search. You will only have one result.

**allstarsplus** · 03-06-2007, 11:33 AM

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I did a Google search and found this:

Game Used Memorabilia - 100% Authentic/Lou Lampson

Lou Lampson is considered by collectors, ex-athletes, and equipment managers, alike as a foremost authority and analyst in the field. He has authenticated for the National Sports Gallery, Smithsonian Institution, The College Football HOF, Texas Sports HOF, Upper Deck Authenticated and the hobby's major auction houses.

Lou has over thirty years' experience in collecting, authenticating and appraising game used uniforms and related equipment. He owns an extensive game used collection covering all four major sports, including numerous, unique, "Perfect 10" representations and has an astonishing 8,000 plus uniform-related photos in his reference library.

**chakes89** · 03-06-2007, 11:46 AM

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Is this guy even real? LOL

**ripkengamers** · 03-06-2007, 08:32 PM

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Forum members,

As you know I have a fond appreciation for Mr. Lampson to the point words cannot describe. I'm slowing working with the help of others to surface my situation with the Ripken St. Patrick's Day jersey not only as a primary means for me to get my money back from the seller but also as a means to surface the real Mr. Lampson and make him publicly accountable for all his poor authentication practices.
I'm currently collecting information from the forum website with accounts to all the known and questionable LOA's / COA's he has provided.
I am asking forum members to provide me as much information and ammunition as possible to support my claims as this endeavor continues. If all goes as planned and hopefully with the help of forum members to back me up, justice will be served, hopefully I'll get my money back and maybe Mr. Lampson will be put on a pedestal and exposed for all the world to see!
Send me links to articles, proof of misinterpretation, etc. to help me out. If you wish to remain anonymous let me know. If you wish to be included as part of this endeavor and support me I'd like to know that as well.
I'll keep the forum members posted of what will be transpiring in the near future.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

**flaco1801** · 03-06-2007, 08:37 PM

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open up an auction house he will be in contact with ya

**lund6771** · 03-06-2007, 09:16 PM

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After reading the posts on "current auctions" forums it makes me just sick!!!...the auction houses HAVE to know what an idiot this guy is...but they get away with selling this trash because they can hide behind Lampson, who in turn thinks he's untouchable because it's his "opinion"...

after watching that People's Court, this guy had better start getting nervous...his cherade can only go so long...

Are you telling me the auction houses can't realize that Eli Manning, Lebron, etc. don't wear 1000 jerseys a season and these jerseys are in EVERY SINGLE AUCTION!!!!...DUH!!!!!!

Lampson can't even be that stupid, coming from Mass. and certainly knowing how difficult REAL Pat's jerseys are to get, to realize that "HMMMMM...it seams that I've authenticated 50 Tom Brady's last year...that's odd..."

The guy is a crook and needs to go down...he is the biggest detriment to this hobby

**sylbry** · 03-06-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by lund6771

...the auction houses HAVE to know what an idiot this guy is...but they get away with selling this trash because they can hide behind Lampson, who in turn thinks he's untouchable because it's his "opinion"...

It is of my opinion that the auction houses use him because he is a familiar name and will rubberstamp anything. He is just a sellout who puts him "opinion" on everything. But remember the auction houses are the ones who present him the item in question in the first place.

I don't think Lou is as dumb as people think he is. I think he is just a sellout who is in it for the money and justifies everything he authenticates by saying "prove to me it wasn't used" instead of "prove to me it was." And since Lou has yet to find proof that a jersey or bat wasn't used while he watches Days of Our Lives, he authenticates everything.

**lund6771** · 03-06-2007, 10:15 PM

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exactly!!!!

**CollectGU** · 03-06-2007, 10:23 PM

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He is no better or worse than MEARS, but for some reason no one on this site talks about their mistakes. Their retail model Berra mask fiasco is as bad as the Lampson St. Pat's..Maybe worse because it sold for $17K and they had a financial interest in the item...

Dave

**BoneRubbedBat** · 03-06-2007, 10:36 PM

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Who knows if Lampson has a financial interest in any of the items???

Maybe he is the person submitting all the crap getting "authenticated"????

**kingjammy24** · 03-07-2007, 04:19 PM

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"He is no better or worse than MEARS, but for some reason no one on this site talks about their mistakes."

hello dave. i think this forum (and the old one) is filled with accounts of mears/scda/bushing/troy errors. in fact, i know it is because i've commented on many of them. while i'm not a huge fan of mears, i have to say that i think lampson is undeniably and substantially worse. it's one thing to lay out all of their respective errors and go down the line subjectively comparing which ones were worse. ultimately though, i feel lampson is far worse because:

- any day of the week, i can directly email, write, or call bushing or troy. i can also post on their forum and receive a prompt reply. in fact, you yourself have had extensive discussions directly with troy about the berra mask. if anyone has a problem with a mears authentication, we all know that bushing or troy will at least give you the respect of discussing it like a couple of grown men.

lampson, on the other hand, hides like some sort of petrified schoolgirl. nobody is able to discuss any of his authentications with him. it took eric weeks of effort just to get a message passed on to him via a third party, as if he's in some sort of witness protection program. if i came across a sloppy mears authentication, i could pick up the phone right now and discuss it personally with troy or dave. can i do that with lou? can i call him right now to discuss the st.pats jersey? if so, please share his phone number. i won't hold my breath.

according to one of his employers, mastro, "Mr. Lampson does not want his email address given out". even you have to admit that bushing and troy don't have 1/4 of the cowardice that seems to be lou's trademark. right or wrong, at least troy and dave can be contacted. lou must have a tremendous amount of confidence in his authentications if he intentionally makes himself nearly impossible to contact. it's almost as if he's fully aware he's tossing out bombs because he goes to such great lengths to make sure he's completely safe from the eventual explosions.

- if a mears authentication is proven wrong, they will buy the item back. while they don't always admit all of their errors, the fact is that they actually have bought some items back and admitted some of their mistakes. again, while i'm not a huge fan of mears, this policy seems to be leaps and bounds above anything offered by lou. when lou makes an error, you can't even get a reply or explanation, much less a refund. has lou ever bought an item back? in all my years, i've never even seen him personally issue an apology or admission of error. have you?

in short, i believe that mears has a genuine interest in the hobby (you couldn't produce the amount of research or write the articles that they do if you were just in it for a quick buck). i believe they inherantly have care and concern for the hobby and have a genuine desire to help. i also believe they genuinely want to properly authenticate items and fight fraud. i also realize that, for various reasons, these intentions aren't always realized. the thing is, i can't say any of the same for lampson.
everything i've seen from lampson simply indicates an individual who believes that his ability to pump out as many worthless LOAs as possible is a bottomless goldmine and he's intent on squeezing every penny he can from it while dodging any responsibility, accountability, and due diligence like he's some sort of human Frogger.

rudy.

**akatz** · 03-07-2007, 04:58 PM

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Have you guys ever heard of www.zabasearch.com? Check it out. I think that you will find the information you're seeking.

**allstarsplus** · 03-07-2007, 05:11 PM

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Does Lou Lampson have a website to check jersey grading criteria like MEARS has? Does Lou have a phone # or email address? Does Lou have a guarantee system? Does Lou have a conflict of interest statement?

I expect all the above answers to be "yes" to be considered at the least competent in just the customer service area of the authentication business not even commenting on his knowledge or expertise. Those to me are at a minimum a must have.

For MEARS, http://www.mearsonline.com/services/jersey.asp you have well written explanations of what the jersey grades and here are their policies: http://www.mearsonline.com/services/policies.asp

If you go to the current Vintage Authentics auction, you get Lampson graded jerseys all over their auction with no concise explanantion of grading systems. How does a Terry Bradshaw get a Lampson 8.5 rating with no provenance? Repairs and signs of wear can be done by a kid that has good sewing skills.

http://vintageauthentics.at.truition.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=80085987&prmenbr=57735959&aunbr=80432697

The outer tail contains the Medalist SandKnit size 46 label with stitch remnants visible above for a removed exclusivity label as well as remnants of a year swatch. The game use evidence is consistent and quite solid with a visible minor team repair, light puckering of the numerals, and strong NOB wear. Overall this quality Bradshaw game representation is not to be missed and earns a final high grade of 8.5.

Here is a copy of sweet Lou's LOA: http://pics1.edeal.com/images/p2/wl/vintageauth/docs/bradshaw83gujerslou8-5.jpg

Here's a Bettis jersey with a 9.5 rating from Lou:

http://vintageauthentics.at.truition.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=80085988&prmenbr=57735959&aunbr=80432698

Here is the LOA w/ a 9.5 rating with no provenance:

http://pics1.edeal.com/images/p2/wl/vintageauth/docs/bettis93gujersLou9-5.pdf

Is Lampson in hiding?

Is Lampson in hiding?

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