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  • griffey3
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 2

    tbc jerseys?

    hey everybody! Quick ? do MLB Turn back the Clock game worn jerseys have year tags etc?
    Or are they different then regular gamers?
    Thanks in advance for any help
    Ryan
  • XPFO
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 200

    #2
    Re: tbc jerseys?

    For the most part they are different and don't have year tags etc, there are exceptions. The Tigers TBTC jerseys from June 2nd and the Negro League jerseys from their game against the Royals on July 21st have no year tags as an example.

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    • ham1963
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 360

      #3
      Re: tbc jerseys?

      Both the Detriot and KC Negro League jerseys from the July 21st game were made by ASI and do not have a date stamp but do have the MLB hologram.
      John

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      • brianborsch
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1704

        #4
        Re: tbc jerseys?

        That is correct. Although I am not sure if the Royals or Tigers Negro League jerseys were autographed this year. I am still waiting for mine.

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        • TNTtoys
          Moderator
          • Aug 2006
          • 2618

          #5
          Re: tbc jerseys?

          I have noticed (as I own one and have seen countless others) that Mitchell and Ness not only puts the year on their TBC jerseys, but they have the entire date under the Mitchell and Ness tag.

          I have seen others made by companies like AIS that do not bear any date or year identifiers... Rawlings definitely didn't year tag, and I don't think Majestic does either.

          I think it comes down to who manufactured the TBC jersey for the MLB team. Most of the manufacturers don't, but a select few (notably M&N) do.
          Looking for ...
          Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
          Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
          Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com

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          • PudgePollyMillerFan
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 171

            #6
            Re: tbc jerseys?

            No Set/Year Tags on the Tigers TBTC and Negro League Gamers......they do have the MLB Authentication and are NOT autographed this season as numerous collectors complained last year that they did not want them autographed so this year they were very aware of us collectors and did not have the guys sign em.....kudos to Steve Graus for that!
            "All suspects are guilty until proven innocent in the court of law":D

            cjduffield@cablespeed.com

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            • brianborsch
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 1704

              #7
              Re: tbc jerseys?

              Did you get any of the jerseys? If so, when you look them up on MLB.com, do they say who wore them? I noticed on the auto'd jersey it says who auto'd them. Just curious. I have two coming my way, and the cool thing is that Steve said the jerseys came right off the players backs and are unwashed! Has anyone had any stinky jerseys?

              Despite the fact that there are no set #'s or year tags, from what I understand, they only made 1 jersey for each player and the MLB authentification will explain when the jersey is from.

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              • brianborsch
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 1704

                #8
                Re: tbc jerseys?

                authentification.....that's probably not even a word.... its been a long morning...sheesh!

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                • TNTtoys
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2618

                  #9
                  Re: tbc jerseys?

                  Brian,

                  I have a bit of experience here, and my best assessment is that MLB authentication is pretty haphazard at best.

                  I had in my possession 6 Texas Rangers 1962 throwbacks from the 2002 season, most of them coaches jerseys. Included were: Terry Francona, Jerry Narron, Rudy Jaramillo, as well as players like Kevin Mench, Herb Perry, etc.
                  I recall that when I checked MLB auctions, many of these were listed as
                  "Game worn jersey, player #11," etc. The same holds true for Atlanta Braves 1974 throwbacks from the same season. I had a couple of these too... there was a discussion on this board about "player #24." Also, I have had about 4 or 4 of these jerseys as well, of which MLB authentication failed to name the player in about half of the instances. I have also seen instances where MLB authentication has labeled "game issued" jerseys as "game worn" and vice versa.
                  I think that the system is a very positive thing for our hobby, and I certainly feel comfortable buying items that come with MLB authentication...but it is not a perfect system and could use a tweak or two.
                  Looking for ...
                  Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
                  Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
                  Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com

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                  • TNTtoys
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2618

                    #10
                    Re: tbc jerseys?

                    Originally posted by TNTtoys
                    Also, I have had about 4 or 4 of these jerseys as well
                    Looks like "authentification" is not the only blooper in this thread!! It's contagious...
                    Looking for ...
                    Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
                    Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
                    Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com

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                    • TNTtoys
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2618

                      #11
                      Re: tbc jerseys?

                      A couple of shots of the 2000 TBC jerseys from M&N, with full date of the game in the jersey tagging.
                      Attached Files
                      Looking for ...
                      Any Game Used Mets jerseys from 1986 and 1987
                      Any Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Lee Mazzilli and John Olerud Mets items
                      Email me at TNT_Toys@yahoo.com

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                      • brianborsch
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1704

                        #12
                        Re: tbc jerseys?

                        Wow, the Mitchell and Ness jersey seems to be way better with the date sewn on. I wonder why some teams use AIS for their jerseys. Do the M&N jerseys hold more value than the AIS jerseys?

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                        • XPFO
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 200

                          #13
                          Re: tbc jerseys?

                          Originally posted by brianborsch
                          Wow, the Mitchell and Ness jersey seems to be way better with the date sewn on. I wonder why some teams use AIS for their jerseys. Do the M&N jerseys hold more value than the AIS jerseys?
                          I would say definitley not at all....all depends on the player.

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                          • brianborsch
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1704

                            #14
                            Re: tbc jerseys?

                            One more question, if you have a Negro league throwback GU jersey from a players rookie year, would it hold as much value as one of their regular GU jerseys because it is more rare? Or would it be less valuable due to it being worn only once?

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                            • XPFO
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 200

                              #15
                              Re: tbc jerseys?

                              Again...it is based on what someone is willing to pay, however as a guideline for example, Curtis Granderson's Negro League Jersey and Turn Back the Clock Jerseys were being sold at $750 (The TBTC being the complete uniform), while his Set 1 home jersey was $900 and Road jersey $1000.

                              On the Ball Park Heores website, the TBTC jerseys/one game jerseys Kim has carries a premium.

                              I would think they are both pretty equal...again it always goes back to what someone will pay.

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