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1994 Bills Throwback Question
A friend emailed me as he was offered a 94 Jim Kelly Throwback..Here is what he sent me:
Buffalo wore 2 throwbacks in 1994... A white and A Blue... The jersey I am being offered is the blue.. The throwbacks were worn by Buffalo in 2 games... They are both early season games.. One being in Houston in a 15-7 win and the other in a 30-27 loss at home vs Denver on a Monday night. I believe the jersey was worn in the Denver game but I am not sure..
I haven't been able to find any pictures from either game..
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Does anyone have pix from the game or have any information regarding these jerseys?
Thanks,
Scott
sjnyr@aol.com
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Re: 1994 Bills Throwback Question
That jersey was offered here as well. I asked for pics and the jersey looks brand new to me. I realize one game used jerseys show little use, but this one shows nothing at all. The labels are crisp, I would be very surprised to see this was a game used jersey. As such, since proving any use is probably almost impossible, it is being sold as game issued. Gamers garner about 3-5 times what they are asking. Just my opinion.
Scott
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The Bills wore their dark "home" Throwback jersey for the game against Denver of Sep 26, 1994.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
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i got the pictures of 94 throwback kelly jersey from the guy that posted it for sale on this forum...
my problem with the jersey is the numbers are IRON/PRESSED ON BUT the KELLY and stripes are painted/screened on so i think the numbers are ADDED after he gets the jersey... and couple of months ago, I SAW BLANK THROWBACK BILLS JERSEY ON EBAY with KELLY ON back WITHOUT numbers, and it has 1994 tagging and champion tags as well.... i wouldnt touch it
BILLS NEVER WEAR IRON/PRESSED on NUMBERS !!!
thanks
marcus
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This Post Is From The Guy Selling This Jersey. I`m Not An Expert In Game Used Jerseys, But, I Want To Make One Thing Clear, Especially To That Last Post From Marcus. I Won This Jersey In An Auction From Grey Flannel In 2002. I Still Have The Catalog And Loa From Them. If You Have A Problem With This Jersey, Get Your Facts Straight. I Did Not Win This Jersey On Ebay And Add The Numbers Later. That`s A Down Right Lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I Won This Jersey From Grey Flannel And Was Just Looking To Sell It.
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Originally Posted by
WOODFERN
This Post Is From The Guy Selling This Jersey. I`m Not An Expert In Game Used Jerseys, But, I Want To Make One Thing Clear, Especially To That Last Post From Marcus. I Won This Jersey In An Auction From Grey Flannel In 2002. I Still Have The Catalog And Loa From Them. If You Have A Problem With This Jersey, Get Your Facts Straight. I Did Not Win This Jersey On Ebay And Add The Numbers Later. That`s A Down Right Lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I Won This Jersey From Grey Flannel And Was Just Looking To Sell It.
I have purchased a 1994 throwback jersey from WOODFERN and the transaction was perfect. I know he has sold other throwbacks from 1994 and he has had no complaints that I know of.
Marcus, I think you should do a little more research before public blasting anyone. I know you consider yourself a Bills expert, but that doesn't mean you shoud accuse WOODFERN of being a crook because you don't think the jersey is real.
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Originally Posted by
toddhead
I have purchased a 1994 throwback jersey from WOODFERN and the transaction was perfect. I know he has sold other throwbacks from 1994 and he has had no complaints that I know of.
Marcus, I think you should do a little more research before public blasting anyone. I know you consider yourself a Bills expert, but that doesn't mean you shoud accuse WOODFERN of being a crook because you don't think the jersey is real.
well my words against urs ... i know for the FACT that BILLS did not wear iron on numbers NO BUT OR IF , now something is really bothering me .... the kelly bills throwback jersey is listing on ebay by WOODFERN, and u just mentioned u brought the jersey from him ??? he listed it yesteday......and be careful i didnt not accuse WOODFERN of being a crook :) and GF COA is not that good anymore .....
heres link
http://cgi.ebay.com/1994-JIM-KELLY-G...QQcmdZViewItem
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Marcus, I think you should do a little more research before public blasting anyone. I know you consider yourself a Bills expert, but that doesn't mean you shoud accuse WOODFERN of being a crook because you don't think the jersey is real.[/quote]
I DID some research on the BILLS throwback jerseys so do not assume as if i did not do a little more research... i think YOU DID NOT DO SOME RESEARCH and thats PROBLEM !!!
you be careful, i did not see anything that i did accuse WOODFERN, i am just posting the FACTS about the BILLS KELLY throwback jersey. I DID warned him that BILLS doesnt wear iron on numbers and he just did not listen to me :)
thanks
marcus
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can someone post photos of the jersey in question?. that may help.
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Marcus,
It appears that you are not clear on several issues being discussed.
1. Toddhead and WOODFERN are discussing a Bills throwback jersey that was made for use in the 1994 season. I cannot speak about the Bills throwbacks in 1994, but their regular-season jerseys in 1994 had screened-on numbers.
2. You stated that the Bills never wear ironed/pressed-on numbers. It is a well-documented fact that the Bills wore screened-on numbers for many years.
3. Toddhead did not say that he bought the Bills jersey from WOODFERN. He stated that he had bought a throwback jersey (obviously not this Bills jersey) from WOODFERN and the transaction went well.
If you have a problem with the jersey, please follow the Forum rules and address the Seller directly with your concerns. To accuse someone of adding numbers with no evidence to support your belief is horribly unfair to the Seller, and certainly not within the spirit or intent of this Forum.
If you can educate us with the facts and provide evidence of such facts, it would be most appreciated by all. Most importantly, to do so would have avoided the ugliness that has transpired in this thread. That's the reason the moderators set rules for posting - to hopefully avoid this type of thread.
Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net
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Originally Posted by
G1X
Marcus,
It appears that you are not clear on several issues being discussed.
1. Toddhead and WOODFERN are discussing a Bills throwback jersey that was made for use in the 1994 season. I cannot speak about the Bills throwbacks in 1994, but their regular-season jerseys in 1994 had screened-on numbers.
2. You stated that the Bills never wear ironed/pressed-on numbers. It is a well-documented fact that the Bills wore screened-on numbers for many years.
3. Toddhead did
not say that he bought the Bills jersey from WOODFERN. He stated that he had bought a throwback jersey (obviously not this Bills jersey) from WOODFERN and the transaction went well.
If you have a problem with the jersey, please follow the Forum rules and address the Seller directly with your concerns. To accuse someone of adding numbers with no evidence to support your belief is horribly unfair to the Seller, and certainly not within the spirit or intent of this Forum.
If you can educate us with the facts and provide evidence of such facts, it would be most appreciated by all. Most importantly, to do so would have avoided the ugliness that has transpired in this thread. That's the reason the moderators set rules for posting - to hopefully avoid this type of thread.
Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net
wow i must overlooked the toddhead's statement .. but i dont understand why he brought up about his deal with woodfern... the topic is about bills throwback jersey and its not any of woodfern throwback jerseys issues....
once again this topic is about bills throwback jersey question.....i dont care about woodferns business with anyone else... we all know that BILLS worn screened/painted on numbers , and dont we all agree that BILLS NEVER wear iron/pressed on numbers ??
thanks
marcus
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Marcus,
Some collectors interchange the terminology in describing "screened-on" numbers as some call it "ironed-on", some call it "painted-on", some incorrectly say "silk-screened" (an entirely different process), and I have even heard the term "rubberized" numbers. When I hear a collector say "ironed-on" numbers, I assume that the numbers are "screened-on".
With regards to WOODFERN's jersey, he offered it for sale in this Forum several weeks and you asked for photos according to that particular thread. WOODFERN has now put the jersey for sale on ebay.
Toddhead brought up his deal with WOODFERN because you have insinuated in this thread (your initial post) that WOODFERN probably added the numbers after he bought the jersey. Toddhead is stating a fact in defense of WOODFERN while you are stating a potentially damaging assumption that was not supported in your post with any concrete evidence or facts.
Do you not understand why WOODFERN is upset and Toddhead posted in WOODFERN's defense? It wasn't a question about the jersey iteself, but rather the suggestion that WOODFERN altered the jersey that stirred their posts and mine.
Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net
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Originally Posted by
G1X
Marcus,
Some collectors interchange the terminology in describing "screened-on" numbers as some call it "ironed-on", some call it "painted-on", some incorrectly say "silk-screened" (an entirely different process), and I have even heard the term "rubberized" numbers. When I hear a collector say "ironed-on" numbers, I assume that the numbers are "screened-on".
With regards to WOODFERN's jersey, he offered it for sale in this Forum several weeks and you asked for photos according to that particular thread. WOODFERN has now put the jersey for sale on ebay.
Toddhead brought up his deal with WOODFERN because you have insinuated in this thread (your initial post) that WOODFERN probably added the numbers after he bought the jersey. Toddhead is stating a
fact in defense of WOODFERN while you are stating a potentially damaging assumption that was not supported in your post with any concrete evidence or facts.
Do you not understand why WOODFERN is upset and Toddhead posted in WOODFERN's defense? It wasn't a question about the jersey iteself, but rather the suggestion that WOODFERN altered the jersey that stirred their posts and mine.
Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net
the different terms of painted/screened on AND iron/pressed on, they are totally different style of putting numbers on the jersey, and yes i do agree that iron/pressed on is SAME thing with the SILK numbers and rubbering numbers.....
i already see the pictures of throwback kelly jersey and I ASKED SELLER THUR EMAILS before i posted on this FORUM so i DID FOLLOW THE RULES !!!
i told the seller that the numbers doesnt look right and BILLS never wears iron/pressed on numbers (SILK/rubbering like numbers)
I DID MY HOMEWORK AND RESEARCH... i assume this forum is to help each other but seem you are pushing me away and toddhead posted highway sign of man with computer, so this is a JOKE !?
i am trying to help people here and i explained to the seller about the numbers on the jersey, he just didnt show he cares and hoping someone will buy it without notice the numbers , then yet now hes listing it on ebay WITHOUT pictures, he tend not to list them with pictures, doesnt it brings up some questions ??? i do not question the sellers , BUT only the jersey itself
thank you
marcus
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i forgot to mention about the jerseys numbers. mostly importantly, when i saw the pictures, the major problem is the letters KELLY on the back is SCREENED/PAINTED ON the nameplate sewning on the jersey while the numbers are iron/pressed on (silk/rubberlike numbers) the jersey ....
that is what i came with the questions with the kelly throwback jersey
Whats more...... i saw the same blue BILLS throwback jersey with KELLY on the back on nameplate without numbers #12s with the same size 42 and year 1994 taggings from EBAY that was sold for maybe $150-$200 COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. REMMY here i dont know if WOODFERY bought the kelly blank jersey from ebay ......
this is just information of facts i am sharing
marcus
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Originally Posted by
mchmaj
the different terms of painted/screened on AND iron/pressed on, they are totally different style of putting numbers on the jersey, and yes i do agree that iron/pressed on is SAME thing with the SILK numbers and rubbering numbers.....
i already see the pictures of throwback kelly jersey and I ASKED SELLER THUR EMAILS before i posted on this FORUM so i DID FOLLOW THE RULES !!!
i told the seller that the numbers doesnt look right and BILLS never wears iron/pressed on numbers (SILK/rubbering like numbers)
I DID MY HOMEWORK AND RESEARCH... i assume this forum is to help each other but seem you are pushing me away and toddhead posted highway sign of man with computer, so this is a JOKE !?
i am trying to help people here and i explained to the seller about the numbers on the jersey, he just didnt show he cares and hoping someone will buy it without notice the numbers , then yet now hes listing it on ebay WITHOUT pictures, he tend not to list them with pictures, doesnt it brings up some questions ??? i do not question the sellers , BUT only the jersey itself
thank you
marcus
We may have language issues here, Marcus. It's clear english is your second language and that may be part of the reason why your posts come across as a bit "know it all" re: Bills' items, a bit rude and condescending, a bit arrogant.
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Originally Posted by
mvandor
We may have language issues here, Marcus. It's clear english is your second language and that may be part of the reason why your posts come across as a bit "know it all" re: Bills' items, a bit rude and condescending, a bit arrogant.
you rather looking at english of writing on the forum THAN being BURNED with bad jerseys ??
i am just sharing the FACTS here, and i am BILLS expert and why cannot u respect that ?
thank you
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Marcus,
You are very helpful with your insight of Bills jerseys, but you need to understand that your posts come across as very confrontational. It may not be how you are intending them to be, but that's the way they are coming across.
There is really no need to bring up the e-bay jersey because it is not the one in question. Every time you bring it up it comes across as you accusing WOODFERN of buying it, altering it, and trying to pass it off as the one he purchased from Grey Flannel a couple of years ago.
Not trying to pick a fight here, just trying to help you understand how your posts are coming across. Maybe if you just focus on the jersey instead of WOODFERN this post will serve the original purpose it was intended to.
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Originally Posted by
toddhead
Marcus,
You are very helpful with your insight of Bills jerseys, but you need to understand that your posts come across as very confrontational. It may not be how you are intending them to be, but that's the way they are coming across.
There is really no need to bring up the e-bay jersey because it is not the one in question. Every time you bring it up it comes across as you accusing WOODFERN of buying it, altering it, and trying to pass it off as the one he purchased from Grey Flannel a couple of years ago.
Not trying to pick a fight here, just trying to help you understand how your posts are coming across. Maybe if you just focus on the jersey instead of WOODFERN this post will serve the original purpose it was intended to.
Agreed, what I was trying to explain to Marcus.
Unfortunately the only 94 Kelly on ebay has ZERO pics to even see the item or the Grey Flannel paperwork. Without that everyone including any prospective bidder is flying blind.
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can someone please post a photo of this jersey as it may be easier to follow. it is impossible to prove to anyone about the numbering if there is no photo to backup what is being stated. Marcus can you help with the photo's that were sent to you?
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i found the pictures from my email ..
i made mistake , its size 44 not 42, the ebay blank kelly on back throwback jersey is size 44 too, sorry for error...
heres pictures, includes GF COA
i asked the seller about the numbers and he told me the numbers are rubbering like/silk pressed/iron on and the KELLY is painted/screened on the nameplate...
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Unfortunately, can't find useful pics of that one game in 94 and the quality of these pics are too poor to see or tell much. Can't really read the GF letter, tell materials, etc.
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The ebay jesey is the same size, same year and has a GF LOA, not the same?
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Originally Posted by
mvandor
Unfortunately, can't find useful pics of that one game in 94 and the quality of these pics are too poor to see or tell much. Can't really read the GF letter, tell materials, etc.
i personally ASKED the seller about the numbers material compare with KELLY on the nameplate ,what he told me that the kelly is painted/screened on and the numbers #12 on front, back and sleeves are different than the KELLY and its in rubber like, silky numbers pressed/ironed on
thanks
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Originally Posted by
mchmaj
i personally ASKED the seller about the numbers material compare with KELLY on the nameplate ,what he told me that the kelly is painted/screened on and the numbers #12 on front, back and sleeves are different than the KELLY and its in rubber like, silky numbers pressed/ironed on
thanks
I've had some exchanges with seller and he seems for some reason not to wish to add pics to the listings but rather to email them to requesting parties. Odd way to ebay IMHO.
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Yea but they sell. he sold an Everett 1994 throwback and a Wilkinson Bengals throwback with no pics. Whatever the seller wants to do is up to him.
I bought from Woodfern, if asking for pics he's very personaly and friendly to give you what you ask for. how he wants to sell is his business.
Thanks for the jersey by the way. ;)
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Marcus,
It is very important in the context of this disucssion to know that the Kelly jersey that was listed for sale in this Forum several weeks ago is the same one listed on ebay. It is also the same Seller.
Also, it bears repeating what I stated in an earlier thread about terminology. Some collectors interchange the terminology in describing "screened-on" numbers as some call it "ironed-on", some call it "painted-on", some say "silk-screened", and I have even hear the term "rubberized" numbers. When I hear a collector say "ironed-on" numbers, I assume that the numbers are "screened-on".
I have known WOODFERN for a long time and am familiar with his collection of 1994 "throwback" jerseys that he is in the process of selling. The Kelly jersey has been part of his collection for a few years. I have not seen the jersey in person, so I will reserve any comments about it being "game-worn", but in conversations with WOODFERN over the years, I can assure you that he usues the term "screened-on" interchangeably with "ironed-on". In other words, it means the same to him. If he sees a jersey with "screened-on" numbers, he will often say "ironed-on".
Although the photos are not very clear, there is nothing that looks unique or unusual about the numbers. It is the classic Champion-style font as was typical of Champion jerseys manufactured in 1994, and the numbers appear to be the typical "screened-on" numbers of that era.
I hope this information is helpful.
Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net
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Originally Posted by
mchmaj
the different terms of painted/screened on AND iron/pressed on, they are totally different style of putting numbers on the jersey, and yes i do agree that iron/pressed on is SAME thing with the SILK numbers and rubbering numbers.....
i already see the pictures of throwback kelly jersey and I ASKED SELLER THUR EMAILS before i posted on this FORUM so i DID FOLLOW THE RULES !!!
i told the seller that the numbers doesnt look right and BILLS never wears iron/pressed on numbers (SILK/rubbering like numbers)
I DID MY HOMEWORK AND RESEARCH... i assume this forum is to help each other but seem you are pushing me away and toddhead posted highway sign of man with computer, so this is a JOKE !?
i am trying to help people here and i explained to the seller about the numbers on the jersey, he just didnt show he cares and hoping someone will buy it without notice the numbers , then yet now hes listing it on ebay WITHOUT pictures, he tend not to list them with pictures, doesnt it brings up some questions ??? i do not question the sellers , BUT only the jersey itself
thank you
marcus
I have to disagree with you that the Bills never wore silk screened or iron on numbers. I have a 95 champion jersey and a 99 puma jersey of Phil Hansen. The numbers and letters on both of them are ironed/pressed/silk screened (however you want to say it). 1 jersey is directly from the Bills and the other is photomatched. They are also both verified to be gamers from Phil himself, who is a friend of mine. I am not claiming to be a Bills expert, but the jersey's I have look very similar to the pictures of the Kelly jersey, especially the 95 champion that I have.
Hope this helps a little.
Dave
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Originally Posted by
G1X
Marcus,
Also, it bears repeating what I stated in an earlier thread about terminology. Some collectors interchange the terminology in describing "screened-on" numbers as some call it "ironed-on", some call it "painted-on", some say "silk-screened", and I have even hear the term "rubberized" numbers. When I hear a collector say "ironed-on" numbers, I assume that the numbers are "screened-on".
I have known WOODFERN for a long time and am familiar with his collection of 1994 "throwback" jerseys that he is in the process of selling. The Kelly jersey has been part of his collection for a few years. I have not seen the jersey in person, so I will reserve any comments about it being "game-worn", but in conversations with WOODFERN over the years, I can assure you that he usues the term "screened-on" interchangeably with "ironed-on". In other words, it means the same to him. If he sees a jersey with "screened-on" numbers, he will often say "ironed-on".
Although the photos are not very clear, there is nothing that looks unique or unusual about the numbers. It is the classic Champion-style font as was typical of Champion jerseys manufactured in 1994, and the numbers appear to be the typical "screened-on" numbers of that era.
I hope this information is helpful.
Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net
mark, why didnt you just listen to me ? ? i already provide facts and you still yet questioned me .......
i already MENTIONED that the SELLER TOLD ME HIMSELF that the KELLY letters on the back are DIFFERENT material than the NUMBERS on the JERSEY, SUCH AS the kelly and the stripes on each sleeves are painted/screened on and the #12s are different and they are like the shiny numbers as silk rubberlike "yes you are right the KELLY and stripes are different materials than the #12s" that what he said on the emails between us.
facts provided enough, mark ???
thank you very much
my problem with this forum , no one believes me what i have said about BILLS jerseys .... why is that so HARD ?? i got many primary sources of BILLS uniforms history, and whats more my BA is in history !!! so i know my research :) and i already proved some BILLS jerseys that are bad ones and some are good ones from the owners of the BILLS jerseys.....
marcus
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heres link of 1994 bills john fina game jersey on ebay
it speaks of itself .....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=011
i have sold 1995 PAUP #95 jersey on ebay couple of years ago and its heavy painted/screened on
not the iron on , i think you are right bills worn rubber like numbers maybe in 1998- 1999 season with PUMA or logo athetics... the iron on numbes is different because the rubber like numbers are softer and the iron on numbers are harder materials. good example of the iron on numbers, the 80s la rams and bears worn them ....
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It's not that nobody believes you, it's just that you kind of come across as arrogant, so most people don't focus on the facts you are presenting... just the fact that you don't possibly think you can be wrong. I don't doubt that you are an expert in Bills uniforms, but I doubt the fact that you are 100% right all of the time. I have read some of your other postings and they are all the same... maybe if you took a more laid back, less aggressive approach to explaining the flaws in jerseys people post here you would get more discussion about the jerseys instead of time wasted with post like mine.
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yeah you are right, and this goes no where now. i am giving the white flag now and this will be be my last post about the bills kelly jersey. i am giving up so you guys calls whatever you thinks !
i have called "all in" with my chips with pocket of red aces.......anyone calls ?? :)
cheers
marcus
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Marcus,
I am not questioning your expertise on Bills materials. The only visual evidence you provided (the photos of the jersey) shows that the numbers and lettering are typical of 1994 jerseys made by Champion. Due to the way a number with trim is screened on to a jersey, it can look and feel like a different material than the lettering screened onto a nameplate and the sleeve stripes (due to the thickness, texture, etc.) This sometimes leads to confusion in terminology when describing a jersey, and this seems to be the case in this instance.
I called WOODFERN last night regarding this jersey. His description over the telephone and my observations of the photos leads me to reason that there is nothing unique or unusual about the numbers and lettering on this jersey. That's just my humble opinion based on his description to me and observing the photos. You feel otherwise based on your email exchanges, but this all seems to be a matter of not being clear on each other's terminology in email exchanges between you and WOODFERN as opposed to actual visual evidence indicating that something is incorrect with the numbers and lettering. Again, what one collector describes as "screened-on", another collector might describe as "ironed-on".
Please ignore for a moment the different use of terminology that has been discussed and look solely at the photos. If there is something that doesn't look right about the numbers and lettering, please share this knowledge with us.
Thanks!
Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange
gixc@verizon.net
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Because I`m The Guy Selling This Jersey I Would Like To Add Something. There`s A Post On Here Stating There Is A 1994 John Fina White Bills Jersey Listed On Ebay. I Got A Closeup Of That Jersey`s Numbers And Compared It To The Numbers On The Kelly Jersey They Sure Look Like They Were Put ON The Same To Me. Maybe Its The Terminology. I Don`t Know. The Only Way To Be Sure Is To Have Both Jerseys In Front Me But By Looking At The Picture And Looking At The Kelly, The Numbering Looks Consistant With Each Other. As Far As How I List A Jersey On Ebay, I Don`t Have A Scanner To Show Pictues, So I Take A Picture From My Cell Phone And Foward It To My Email Address. I Clearly State That If Someone Wants To See A Picture Or Has Any Questions To Please Give Me There Email Address And I Will Gladly Foward The Pictures To Them And Answer Their Questions. I Want To Make That Clear. Is It The Best Way? Maybe Not. But, I Try To Be As Honest As I Can. There Still Is This One Person On This Forum Who Still Thinks I Won This Jersey An Added The Numbers. I Have I Little Bit More Sense That To Try To Do That. I WOULD DO THAT And Never Will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because I`m The Guy Selling This Jersey I Would Like To Add Something. There`s A Post On Here Stating There Is A 1994 John Fina White Bills Jersey Listed On Ebay. I Got A Closeup Of That Jersey`s Numbers And Compared It To The Numbers On The Kelly Jersey They Sure Look Like They Were Put ON The Same To Me. Maybe Its The Terminology. I Don`t Know. The Only Way To Be Sure Is To Have Both Jerseys In Front Me But By Looking At The Picture And Looking At The Kelly, The Numbering Looks Consistant With Each Other. As Far As How I List A Jersey On Ebay, I Don`t Have A Scanner To Show Pictues, So I Take A Picture From My Cell Phone And Foward It To My Email Address. I Clearly State That If Someone Wants To See A Picture Or Has Any Questions To Please Give Me There Email Address And I Will Gladly Foward The Pictures To Them And Answer Their Questions. I Want To Make That Clear. Is It The Best Way? Maybe Not. But, I Try To Be As Honest As I Can. There Still Is This One Person On This Forum Who Still Thinks I Won This Jersey An Added The Numbers. I Have I Little Bit More Sense That To Try To Do That. I WOULD NEVER DO THAT And Never Will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I Made A Mistake Ending My First Post. It Should Be I Would Never Do That And Never Will.
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Maybe Not. But, I Try To Be As Honest As I Can. There Still Is This One Person On This Forum Who Still Thinks I Won This Jersey An Added The Numbers. I Have I Little Bit More Sense That To Try To Do That. I WOULD NEVER DO THAT And Never Will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
i dont still think you bought the jersey from ebay, it was already moved on :)
just that timing is funny because i found the RARE throwback BILLS jersey with no numbers and it has KELLY on the back on the ebay. whats more.... the jersey has SAME taggings of the size 44 and 35th anniv tags. it was sold couple of months ago on ebay.
THEN you posted kelly throwback for sale few weeks ago....that was the SAME TAGGINGS, colors, two stripes and KELLY on the back BUT your kelly had numbers and i did the math and that why i assumed. I am sorry and i was wrong.
Maybe there are few made throwback KELLY jerseys for the BILLS ?
can you send me an email picture of the auction date and close up COA picture of the jersey
take it easy woodfery :)
marcus
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Marcus, I Don`t Have A Problem With That. I Do Need Your Email Address. I`ll Gladly Email You A Picture Of The Auction Catalog, The Jersey Listed In The Catalog And The Coa From Grey Flannel With The Pictures. I Can Tell You That It Was The Summer Games 2002 Auction, Date June 12th 2002. After I Send You The Pictures I Would Like To Move On. I`m An Honest Seller And I Try To Answer Peoples Questions As Best I Can And I`m Sure You Would Too. As I Said Earlier, I Would Never Buy A Jersey AnD Add Numbers And Try To Pass It On A Game Used. I Won This Jersey Ans Was Just Trying To Sell It. Have A Good One
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Originally Posted by
mchmaj
yeah you are right, and this goes no where now. i am giving the white flag now and this will be be my last post about the bills kelly jersey. i am giving up so you guys calls whatever you thinks !
i have called "all in" with my chips with pocket of red aces.......anyone calls ?? :)
cheers
marcus
Marcus, I personally would like to thank you for by far the most entertaining thread of all time! They say laughter is a great cure for what ills a person and let me tell you...I am feeling pretty healthy by now! All in with my chips with pocket of red aces??? CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: 1994 Bills Throwback Question
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nyjetsfan14
Marcus, I personally would like to thank you for by far the most entertaining thread of all time! They say laughter is a great cure for what ills a person and let me tell you...I am feeling pretty healthy by now! All in with my chips with pocket of red aces??? CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guess what !? i have taken down my white flag and show you MY PROOF !
i met a new friend that has largest bills game jerseys collection....
he sent me attachment of pictures from 1994 MNF broncos and bills game, the BILLS worn throwback jerseys and i have PROOF that bills didnt wear the style that woodfern is trying to sell, WOODFERN check it out, maybe next time do your homework ?? and yes the jerseys came BLANKS and it was sold orignially from a guy name AL in FLORIDA then it has been handed to different buyers
heres pictures, it was took by my friend personally in the game in 1994 MNF