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paul457 nice wilfork Looks like the one I bid on . Pro shop had it on a few weeks ago I don't know why they listed it as team issued as it clearly had paint transfer in the photos. I won an old mat bahr jersey that showed signs of wear but came as team issued. How much damage can you expect on a kickers jersey :)
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my question is ....I have been collecting for about a year now but have been getting more team issued than actual game worn.
.... am I wasting my time and money on team issued? I just picked up a devon mccourty today ...team issued ... and after seeing all the awesome jerseys here I feel i'm going down the wrong road and should just concentrate on gamers ....any insight ?thanks ....steve
It's all personal preference - I feel like team issued jerseys are a bargain in this hobby. They are player spec'd jerseys, made for game use, and they display just like a game used jersey... minus the filth. Plus they can be had for 1/2 - 1/10 of a GU jersey. I have a few as placeholders on my collection until I can get a perfect GU jersey of that player
Collect what you enjoy.
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patsfan, I would like to hear more about your collection! i too collect more issueds than worn due to the price. do you have anything you consider selling?
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cobra 93 thanks but at the moment still hoarding them all ....my current players are team issued matt slater , gostkoski. harmon ,mccourty,brandon bolden game used with his bca worn gloves and towel and my favorite gamer is larry izzo ......some of my gamers are Maroney , ridley,vincent brisby, james sanders,Merriweather,brandon Mitchell, some of my better known players team issue include ted Johnson , lawyer milloy . terry glenn ,germaine wiggins,chris slade ,david givens,ben Jarvis green ellis,donte Stallworth,ellis hobbs ken walter , matt bahr, scott zolac, Michael bishop, vince wilfork practice worn jersey , I can't rember them all but these are some of my collection
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nice!! may i ask other than ebay and pro shop, where you have been able to find so many?
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cobra ...everything from the pro shop auctions .... but I also have game worn cleats and bca balls from nfl auctions ..... how about your collection and where did you get yours? something tells me we all probably bid against each other at one time or another.... I know I have bid on big ticket items but end up getting blown out of the water by the likes of michaelofsf .... my pockets are no where as deep :) he has an amazing collection
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cobra ...everything from the pro shop auctions .... but I also have game worn cleats and bca balls from nfl auctions ..... how about your collection and where did you get yours? something tells me we all probably bid against each other at one time or another.... I know I have bid on big ticket items but end up getting blown out of the water by the likes of michaelofsf .... my pockets are no where as deep :) he has an amazing collection
haha me neither, i really wanted the Harrison gamer they had listed a couple months ago, but it got too pricey for me really quick! I have been collecting for about 6 years or so, mostly from ebay/other collectors. only recently has the proshop been selling, so i keep an eye on those
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I'll play - my latest is a 2011 Vince Wilfork game used throwback jersey with the Myra Kraft patch.
This was an easy photo match with the jersey in-hand, this was worn against the Jets on October 9th. Glad I landed it - it's an awesome jersey from a Pro Bowl and Super Bowl season. This jersey has lots of loose threads, paint transfers, and scuffs, along with number puckering, and a team repair on the back.
Tobey, very nice Vince! I think I bid on it. I remember I was watching an NFL films Vince Wilfork segment and I could see a green paint transfer I think on the shoulder number match up to the auction photos so I knew it was used. That's a great pickup. A few years back Hunt Auctions had a Vince throwback jersey from 2009 but it was a size 44 in the description which I always thought was strange. Perhaps they just had a typo and it was the 54 that I would think Vince would wear.
http://huntauctions.com/live/img23/279.jpg
Keep the items coming, I know you have some Pats stuff.
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hello everyone ...i'm new here but have been admiring all the collections and drooling:) especially the museum pieces of Michaelofsf ... amazing collection ..my question is ....I have been collecting for about a year now but have been getting more team issued than actual game worn. I figure game issue are still more valuable than regular store bought and I cant afford the elite players gamers. i'm now at around 75 jerseys with about 25 being gamers and the rest actual team issues ....all patriots .... am I wasting my time and money on team issued? I just picked up a devon mccourty today ...team issued ... and after seeing all the awesome jerseys here I feel i'm going down the wrong road and should just concentrate on gamers ....any insight ?thanks ....steve
my current players are team issued matt slater , gostkoski. harmon ,mccourty,brandon bolden game used with his bca worn gloves and towel and my favorite gamer is larry izzo ......some of my gamers are Maroney , ridley,vincent brisby, james sanders,Merriweather,brandon Mitchell, some of my better known players team issue include ted Johnson , lawyer milloy . terry glenn ,germaine wiggins,chris slade ,david givens,ben Jarvis green ellis,donte Stallworth,ellis hobbs ken walter , matt bahr, scott zolac, Michael bishop, vince wilfork practice worn jersey , I can't rember them all but these are some of my collection
Steve, welcome to the thread. I think we are in a much better position as Pats collectors now than before. Thanks to Jim Scollins and the Patriots for making stuff available to us directly from the team we don't have to worry as much about stuff being fake or not good. Also, I think they are more conservative on their descriptions now (used/issued) which is a good thing. It's better to underrepresent a piece than overstate it.
As far as collecting goes, do what Tobey said and just collect what you like. However, if your goal is to own certain gamers then sometimes just focusing on that and ignoring everything else can help. I've been collecting game used stuff for a few years and for my own self I've tried to become more disciplined and specific in what I want so that when those pieces (that I really want) do come along I can be in a position to pick those up. Anyway those were just thoughts that went through my own head for me, collect whatever makes you happy. You have quite the amount of jerseys, please share when you get a chance.
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haha me neither, i really wanted the Harrison gamer they had listed a couple months ago, but it got too pricey for me really quick! I have been collecting for about 6 years or so, mostly from ebay/other collectors. only recently has the proshop been selling, so i keep an eye on those
Yeah that was a nice Harrison, but the bidding was higher than my range.
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thanks for the welcome Michaelofsf .... I think i'll take take your advice and quit pulling the trigger on every jersey I think I want and if I pass on a few dozen I can probably land a high end gamer. As for jim scollins I have spoken to him on several occasions and he is a stand up guy and i'm glad he's doing what he's doing and letting collectors get them. I hate when I see a jersey sell only to see it back on ebay for twice what it sold for any way love your collection and good luck in the future and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all
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Wes Welker 2010 game used Thanksgiving Day cleats worn against Lions (Welker LOA)
For a period of time when Wes was with the Pats he would market and sell his game used gloves on his website (store.weswelker.com). To my knowledge he no longer did that after leaving New England. Most of these items would be inscribed by Wes with the game they were from and sometimes he would put his stats on them as well. This pair is a size 11 Nike Zoom Vapor Carbon Fly TDs. In the game that Welker wore these he had 8 receptions for 90 yards and 2 TDs. 2010 was Welker's first year back after tearing his ACL at the end of the 2009 season in Houston. Welker has sneaky good career totals and I believe is still the Patriots all time leader in receptions.
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Curtis Martin 1996 game used away jersey (Patriots LOA)
Boy Wonder followed up his rookie of the year campaign with a Pro Bowl 1996 season. He had a career high 17 (14 rush 3 rec) TDs in 1996. This away jersey is battered with repairs and has some stains on the jersey. Helmet paint transfers are left on the jersey. The Patriots did wear away jerseys in Super Bowl 31 but this is not from that game as for the jerseys for the Super Bowl had the Starter logos placed above the shoulder numbers instead of below. Not including the preseason, in 1996 the Patriots wore white jerseys @Buffalo, @Baltimore, @Indy, @NYJ, @SD, and @NYG
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Hello michaelofsf .... I just checked a couple of my jerseys My chris canty and Vincent brisby are both stamped inside stating 95/96 season set 1 . both jerseys have the starter logo above the shoulder numbers. Both jerseys are the whites .....does this mean they may have been actual super bowl issued ? thanks for your time , steve
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Hello michaelofsf .... I just checked a couple of my jerseys My chris canty and Vincent brisby are both stamped inside stating 95/96 season set 1 . both jerseys have the starter logo above the shoulder numbers. Both jerseys are the whites .....does this mean they may have been actual super bowl issued ? thanks for your time , steve
Steve,
That's a good question. I don't know the exact answer as I didn't work for the Patriots, but this is the though process that I would go through. First I would see if it had the 1996 style label
http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...1&d=1437110819
If it did then there is a good chance the jersey could be from 1996. In 1995, 1997 and 1998 most of the jerseys that I've seen from looking at photos have the Starter logos above the numbers. For whatever reason in 1996, they had them below for the most part.
Jeff (jeffaary) posted a great photo from the SB that showed the logos on the SB jerseys. They looks as though space wasn't originally there for them, so they are placed above or near the should seam.
http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/02/10/71.../3/628x471.jpg
compared to say a 1998 jersey where there is plenty of spacing between the seam and the numbers so the logo can fit there.
http://www.patriots.com/sites/patrio...amp=1439709537
In 1996 Vincent Brisby dealt with a hamstring injury for most of the season and only appeared in 3 regular season games and the playoffs. In the Super Bowl he had 2 catches. So it's possible the jersey you have may be issued if everything else checks out but I have no idea. Any 1996 game used jersey from Brisby probably wouldn't show much use and could appear issued, but that is an assumption.
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/455...nOqcuAww%3d%3d
As far as Chris Canty, he was a first round draft pick in 1997 so he wouldn't have had a jersey made for him for the Super Bowl I don't think since he was at K State at the time. It's possible the jersey was a 1996 season jersey that is carried over if everything else looks like it was from 1996.
1995
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...re-id158572308
1997
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...re-id147749309
1998
http://www.patriots.com/sites/patrio...amp=1441906114
https://www.patriots.com/sites/patri...?itok=XgjWxkv3
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thanks Michael , much appreciated and great information ... steve
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Michael,
Sweet Curtis Martin gamer. I love how you display your jerseys. Great mannequins, great photos, etc.
What are your thoughts on this Bledsoe jersey?
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I haven't had any luck photo-matching it. But it would be a nice jersey from the Pats 1996 AFC Championship season if it were legit.
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looking at the brisby jersey the starter on the shoulder is about an eight to a quarter inch above the numbers and the top of the starter emblem is just to the seam of the shoulder as in your pic. The shoulder seam is also above the v of the neck as pictured but the jock or hem label is the same starter emblem as on the shoulder with the words authentic and it writing script below authentic it says designed and tailored for the and below that is the nfl shield ....looks nothing like the label on your royal jersey.
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bump ..... I also have a derrick cullors 96 white and it actually has the starter emblem under the shoulder numbers and has the jock tag as you have pictured stating exclusively for the new England patriots so maybe the super bowl jerseys had a different hem tag and just maybe I have an actual brisby super bowl jersey ...thank you very much for all your input Michael .... you certainly know your stuff steve
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What are your thoughts on this Bledsoe jersey?
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I haven't had any luck photo-matching it. But it would be a nice jersey from the Pats 1996 AFC Championship season if it were legit.
That's actually my Bledsoe, and I have not been able to photomatch it either. I've consulted with several GU sources including one with the Patriots, and everything on the jersey checks out with tagging, size, cut, Custom Crafted stamp, etc. It's legitimate but we just can't seem to find photographic proof.
The jersey has light wear, and a team repair, so my guess is that it was worn only for a couple of quarters late in a game, or during the preseason. If you've looked through Getty images you'll see that Bledsoe wore the same jersey in every photo that they have for the 1996 season. But photographs weren't as plentiful back then, and there are no photos on that site from the preseason.
I actually have this 1996 Bledsoe and a 1994 blue issued Bledsoe, I'm only going to keep one of them, so if anyone has Pats GU / issued jerseys they'd like to trade, please contact me at tobey457@gmail.com.
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There was an Austin Collie team issued up on eBay a couple weeks ago. Was it anyone from here who won it?
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I just got a :) patriots Benjamin Watson and Patrick pass game worn ...The Patrick Pass was worn opening night in 2005 and sports the super bowl 39 champions patch
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I just got a :) patriots Benjamin Watson and Patrick pass game worn ...The Patrick Pass was worn opening night in 2005 and sports the super bowl 39 champions patch
cool pickups, please share when you have a chance.
Ty Law 2002 game used home jersey (Patriots LOA)
This is a navy Ty Law jersey that was first worn in 2002. After the Super Bowl winning season of 2001 the Patriots switched from Adidas to Reebok. A cool tidbit of info that I learned from Jim is that in some of Ty Law's jerseys the year tag would be removed, I have no idea why. This one has 02-46 in the neck. The jersey has Law's open sleeves that he started wearing in 2000. Anyway this jersey has a few team repairs and hit marks. Pretty good use for a cornerback jersey. A larger repair is present on the front between the 2 and 4. In 2002 Ty Law made his 3rd (out of 5) Pro Bowl. Law is currently a member of the Patriots Hall of Fame and last year was a semifinalist for Canton. It would be awesome if he can eventually make it in there. Every Patriots fan has a memory in their head of Ty Law wearing the navy jersey in Super Bowl 36 picking of Warner and taking it to the house.
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Michael ..... yet another incredible jersey you have there ... i'll try to post some of mine when I figure out how to do it ..... my collection pales compared to yours but I love collecting ..thanks for sharing your collection and your knowledge .... steve
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Hello michaelofsf .... I just checked a couple of my jerseys My chris canty and Vincent brisby are both stamped inside stating 95/96 season set 1 . both jerseys have the starter logo above the shoulder numbers. Both jerseys are the whites .....does this mean they may have been actual super bowl issued ? thanks for your time , steve
My Keith Byars Super Bowl jersey actually had the logos removed from the bottom of the sleeve and relocated to above the numbers. You can totally see where the logos were originally. I can't say that all the Super Bowl jerseys had the logos removed and relocated, but that would be the first thing I'd look for.
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My Keith Byars Super Bowl jersey actually had the logos removed from the bottom of the sleeve and relocated to above the numbers. You can totally see where the logos were originally. I can't say that all the Super Bowl jerseys had the logos removed and relocated, but that would be the first thing I'd look for.
thanks jeff I just looked at my jerseys and none of the logos were moved. when I tried a photo match I found it interesting that not only were the logos just above the numbers but on some jerseys the starter logo was actually to the side of the numbers
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The linemen jerseys had the logos to the side of the numbers for several seasons because they had those short sleeves that tucked under the shoulder pads and there was no room for logos under or over the numbers. The position players did not have the numbers to the side.
My Byars Super bowl jersey also does not have a Custom Crafted Stamp.
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Ty Law 2001-2002 era game used cleats (Patriots LOA)
I couldn't find a Ty Law jersey for the longest time. So I purchased some game used cleats a few years back. These are style matched to 2001-2002. They are size 12. Law typically had tape on the upper part of his cleats/ankles. These might be from the Green Bay game in 2002. There are some holes cut in the toe area, Law did not do this on all of his cleats. 24 is written on the heel of each cleat.
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Tobey, thanks for sharing. I still am on the lookout for a well documented team sourced or photmatched Bledsoe game worn jersey for my own collection.
John Lynch 2008 game used jersey (final jersey of Lynch's career, Patriots LOA)
I've posted this jersey before on the NFL thread. At the end of Lynch's hopefully HOF career, he spent a preseason with the Patriots and Bill Belichick. During one of the Patriots telecasts this year, Lynch offered some insight into his time there. He was studying really hard to learn the system and had spent a lot of time with BB getting coached up. Before the last preseason game Lynch knew that he was going to retire and told BB, but asked that he let him play the whole game since he knew it was going to be his last game. In the final game against the Giants, Lynch has 8 total tackles (5 solo). It was kind of cool to hear the reason as to why he (a possible HOFer) played well into the end of the 4th preseason game with other people just trying to make a practice squad. Anyway the jersey has a pretty large repair on the back as well as some other repairs in the shoulder area and back of jersey. "08-46" is present in the neck area and the waist is elasticized. It matches up with the road game at Tampa and the finale at NYG. The mesh holes match up and a horizontal crease on the front 4 above the internal triangle can be seen in pics.
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Happy retirement to the defensive captain!
2012 GU Jerod Mayo vs the 49ers w/HOF patch.
Awesome Mayo jersey, love the HOF patch. The second half of that game was maybe Brady's best half of football ever, great comeback that came up just short.
Troy Brown 1999 game used jersey (Patriots LOA)
I was finally able to obtain a Troy Brown game used jersey that showed legitimate use. This 1999 Brown jersey came direct from the Patriots and has a repair on the back shoulder. In 1999 Adidas started manufacturing the Patriots game jerseys and after the 1999 season changed the uniform style to pretty much what it is today. This is my first 1999 jersey and one difference that I noticed on this jersey compared to other Starter era Patriots jerseys is that the numbers do not have the same amount of bubbling up/folding that happens after washing a few times. I do not know if this is present across other 1999 Patriots jerseys compared to the 95-98 Starter jerseys or just this one.
Anyway, this jersey has cuffed sleeves. Troy Brown switched to shorter open sleeves around 2002. On the inner part of the cuffed sleeves a slit is present on both arms. On the front a "99" year tag is present along with the Adidas tag. A good amount of the silver of the shoulder logos has been washed away. Ball/dirt marks are present on the numerals.
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Rodney Harrison 2005 game used jersey (Patriots LOA as issued)
Harrison came over to the Patriots in 2003 and won two Super Bowls with the Pats. He ended up spending 6 seasons in New England and retired after the 2008 season. In 2005 Harrison wore this home colored jersey. He last wore it on the road in week 2 against Carolina. In that game he had 8 combined tackles (7 total, 1 ast) and 1 pass defense. The following week at Pittsburgh he injured his knee and was out for the rest of the year. Harrison did not wear this jersey in week 1 (SB champs patch) and may or may not have worn in the preseason. The jersey has been washed, but some remnant marks are still present on the numerals and also some hit marks on the blue parts. Upon examination of game photos from the week 2 game, some of the threads, mesh holes and numerical stains can be found on the jersey and in pictures. The jersey is a size 48 with +2 inches in length. There is an elastic band in the waist that is hemmed.
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Rodney Harrison 2005 game used jersey The jersey is a size 48 with +2 inches in length.
Correction, it is a size 50 with +2 inches in length
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Dammit, I should have done more research.
Awesome pickup Michael, you got that Harrison for a song! :cool:
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Ty Law 1998 game used jersey (Patriots LOA)
I finally have been able to add a matching style Ty Law (1998 home) and Lawyer Milloy (1996 home) to my collection. One of my favorite posters growing up was "The Firm" with Ty Law and Lawyer Milloy on it. Anyway, about the jersey... the jersey is from the Starter era. Inside the neck there is a Set 1 Custom Crafted tag. The jersey is a size 48 with a repair present on the rear. The jersey has cuffed sleeves as that is how Ty Law wore his jerseys until the 2000 season. In 1998 Law led the NFL in interceptions with 9 (7 in the home jersey), including one returned for a TD in this jersey. He was selected to the 1st Team All Pro.
Any other Pats pickups out there?
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MichaelofSF with, yet again, an amazing pickup! Great collection you have sir.
I'll tone things down with a few team issued pickups from the latest Tent Sale at Gillette Stadium.
First up is, what I believe to be an '85-'87 punter Rich Camarillo, made by Sand Knit.
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These jerseys had their nameplates removed so its pretty hard to tell what exactly they are. I believe this style was worn from 1984(with a patch)-1992, with the NFL Shield patch starting in 1991. 1990 and 1991 had stitched numbers, while the rest have screen printed numbers. Manufacturers during this time period ranged from Champion to Sand Knit to Russell and there were definitely times when a jersey was worn in a different season than it was issued. Very inconsistent back then.
Next is, possibly, an '85-'89 QB Tony Eason, made by Russell. Keep in mind these have no nameplate and no signs of wear.
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Finally I have a mystery #16, also by Russell. Too early to be a Zolak as there is no NFL Shield patch, although there are pictures floating around of Zo wearing a Shield-less jersey.
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I'll post some more pictures soon of the worn jerseys I picked up at the tent sale...
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MichaelofSF with, yet again, an amazing pickup! Great collection you have sir.
I'll tone things down with a few team issued pickups from the latest Tent Sale at Gillette Stadium.
Thank you for the kind words and thank you for posting your pickups!
Marc Edwards 2002 game used jersey (Patriots LOA)
I was recently able to add a Marc Edwards home gamer. As a ND college football fan, I enjoyed watching Edwards play for the Irish and was happy when he joined the Pats and was able to win a Super Bowl with them. As would be expected from a fullback jersey, this jersey is pounded with many hit marks and repairs. The jersey is a size 48 with a neck year/size tag. There is also a reebok tag on the front.
Any other Pats pickups out there?
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I posted my game used Houston Antwine on this thread a few months back. I loaned it to the New England Patriots display at their stadium for the next year! Its part of a special display. If anyone sees it on display let me know! Check it out!
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Picture wont update sorry. Email me at vinnys42@yahoo.com and ill send you a picture of the helmet on display. Thanks! Go Pats
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banderson42:
The Sand-Knit tagging on the punter's jersey would indicate 1987-89 issuance.
Dave Miedema