Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

**bigtruck260** · 10-09-2007, 11:09 AM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

You get the nice one at the WW - he does not always include the "5" though. Kind of a crap shoot. You don't get the stadium scribble when you are a paying customer.

**kingjammy24** · 10-09-2007, 11:36 AM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Originally posted by Birdbats

Looks like a previous owner wasn't satisfied with a nicely signed Pujols bat -- they tried to make it look used. The "5" on each end was not written by Pujols or the Cardinals clubhouse staff; not even close to what you'd expect to see (the blue also isn't correct).

according to the ASI ad, i'm not sure there was a previous owner. the ad states "This bat was not game used however it was made for Albert to be used and then given to us before he had the chance to use it." it almost sounds like it went straight from LVS (or Pujols) to ASI. this would certainly be consistent with ASI's claims that it "obtains 99% of the items from the athletes firsthand".

i'm perplexed by the black rack marks. if the bat wasn't ever really game-issued how did the black rack marks get there?

both the #5 and the rack marks suggest that not only did Pujols take possession of the bat, but that it was also placed in bat rack(s) waiting to be used by Pujols. right before Pujols could use it though, the ebay ad states, ASI received it. if it's determined that the model is wrong and the #5 is wrong, then wouldn't it also stand to reason that the rack marks aren't legit? if this is the case and ASI itself states it recieved the bat before Pujols used it, you have to wonder who added the rack marks and #5. afterall, if ASI "obtains 99% of the items from the athletes firsthand", then it seems that they likely obtained this from Pujols himself. If that's the case and the model, #5, and rack marks are all not legit, then ....

rudy.

**cards-bats** · 10-09-2007, 11:54 AM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

I've got a bat almost exactly the same as the ASI bat. Full sig on a M9 bat without a model #. The bat has a #5 on the knob and black rack marks on the barrel of the bat.
I bought my bat from Grey Flannel several years ago and they told me that it was used by Albert in BP. I've since asked them about the bat and they keep telling me to send it to John Taube. No idea how the LOA would read from JT stating that I have a show bat that shows BP use & is autographed, but hey...I'm the sucker that bought it in the first place.

**cards-bats** · 10-09-2007, 11:56 AM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Here is the reply that I got from ASI when I asked them about this particular bat.... hmmm.....

This bat is not a show bat. This bat came directly from Albert himself

- asi-auctions

**kingjammy24** · 10-09-2007, 11:57 AM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

cards-bats,

does your bat have any ball marks?

rudy.

**bigtruck260** · 10-09-2007, 11:59 AM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Then....we get back to why I posted this item in the first place. There are some questions that need to answered by ASI, who is a pretty reputable company. We have a LS guy telling us that the model/wood is incorrect, and it is a replica bat. There is a bona-fide Cards bat expert in or midst that confirms my assumptions that the blue sharpie numbers are dissimilar to anything that I have ever seen out of the Cards clubhouse. It is a really interesting auction...the bat rack marks are perplexing, but I wonder how easy it would be to put rack marks on a bat...

Again, the sig looks to be 100% genuine.

Here is the link again in case anyone missed it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALBERT-PUJOLS-SIGNED-GAME-ISSUED-BAT-CARDINALS-ASI_W0QQitemZ180167033696QQihZ008QQcategoryZ27261QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

**cards-bats** · 10-09-2007, 12:11 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Rudy,

No ball marks on my bat. Here are some pics.

Jolan

Attached Files

**bigtruck260** · 10-09-2007, 12:18 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Just my humble opinion...the "5" on the knob looks suspect too.
Great bat, nice sig.

**cards-bats** · 10-09-2007, 12:34 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

I would agree on the "5."

Doesn't look right to me.

-Jolan

**Birdbats** · 10-09-2007, 01:34 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Originally posted by kingjammy24

i'm perplexed by the black rack marks. if the bat wasn't ever really game-issued how did the black rack marks get there?

It's been my experience that black marks like these are not caused by bat racks, but rather by black bats placed next to natural bats. When the natural bat is pulled from the box/bag, it rubs against the black bat and a streak is transfered. So, my hunch is this bat never saw the inside of a bat rack -- it simply was rubbing against a black bat at some point.

**bigtruck260** · 10-09-2007, 02:34 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Makes sense Jeff.

So, we have a Grey Flannel auction LOA that might be incorrectly written AND a prominent seller (ASI) stating in an auction description facts that can not be proven.

The most important post here is from BMH who stated that ALL PLAYER MODEL GAME BATS have the model number. Everything else is a replica. Both are great looking bats, with a little "history" behind them.

I just wish we could convince ASI to re-write their description, but somehow, i doubt they will sacrifice a few hundred bucks to chance the description to "replica model"...

**kingjammy24** · 10-09-2007, 03:11 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Originally posted by bigtruck260

There are some questions that need to answered by ASI, who is a pretty reputable company.

i'm not sure if you were being facetious or not. have you read these threads?

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=10826

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=6964

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=5616

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=5577

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=6215

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=2040

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=4732

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=10897

Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=10806

after seeing the shenanigans pulled by ASI over the past few years, "reputable" is the last word that comes to my mind.

rudy.

**kingjammy24** · 10-09-2007, 03:15 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Originally posted by cards-bats

I bought my bat from Grey Flannel several years ago and they told me that it was used by Albert in BP.

it was used by pujols in BP yet has no ballmarks. so pujols took it into the cage and didn't manage to hit any balls at all?

it's been awhile since i've seen a player strike out in BP.

rudy.

**kingjammy24** · 10-09-2007, 03:18 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

http://webpages.charter.net/birdbats/Birdbats%20Graphics/AP%20Knobs.JPG

rudy.

**bigtruck260** · 10-09-2007, 03:51 PM

Re: Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Someone picked up on my sarcasm. I'm not going to bash anyone here...

Pujols Game Issued Bat - ASI

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment