A Word of Caution Re: Hinek Collection Items

[Jake51]

Re: A Word of Caution Re: Hinek Collection Items

Ok..not exactly by my thumb but you get the 'picture'

Tom

[Eric]

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Tom-

Thanks. So then this link to grey flannel shows an Elway without a nylon tag?

http://www.greyflannel.com/main.php?item=2549

[Jake51]

Re: A Word of Caution Re: Hinek Collection Items

Yep, that is correct. The nylon tag on my Elway is centered under (and looks to be attatched to) the Russell tag and the GF jersey doesn't show this same tagging.

Thanks,

Tom

[CollectGU]

Re: A Word of Caution Re: Hinek Collection Items

Tom,

Can you post pictures of the nameplate on your jersey?

Thanks,
Dave

[Jake51]

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Hi Dave,

Here you go. [I threw in a picture of my new addition for fun..BRONCS! helmet from 1962/1963 - the orange one with the bucking logo]

Thanks,

Tom

[EndzoneSports]

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Tom-

Thanks. So then this link to grey flannel shows an Elway without a nylon tag?

http://www.greyflannel.com/main.php?item=2549

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Eric:

Would you (or any other Forum members) happen to know when this Grey Flannel jersey sold? I would like to add info to the sales data spreadsheet that we provide at our web site (see http://endzone.pscoggin.com/UniPrice.xls), but originally missed this one when offered.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Regards,

[EndzoneSports]

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Eric:

Unless others with knowledge of specific instances will come forward with this information, the "master list" appears to be limited to those items covered in this thread. They are as follows:

• Elway #1 - Sold via Historic Auctions to a Denver-area collector
• Elway #2 - Listed on eBay. Auction ended w/ jersey having not met reserve. Subsequently sold to eBay high bidder, another Denver-area collector
• Elway #3 - Sold to an underbidder of the afore mentioned eBay auction. This jersey was "flipped", being listed in AMIs 3/16/06 auction; purchased by AMI bidder #2304 (http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=26441)
• Marino - Listed in AMIs 4/7/06 auction; purchased by AMI bidder #5312 (http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=27123).

It should also be noted (again), that this is not to be construed as a question of the legitimacy of these items. Each item must be assesed on its own merits and should stand on its own, regardless of claims of provenance. This is an issue primarily of provenance. What level of importance the collector places in this provenance is really up to each individual.

Regards,

As a follow-up on this topic, yesterday I received another e-mail from Hinek stating, "Thanks also for that link on the Marino jersey [http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=27123]. That was completely not from (us). I'm not sure how these people do that. It's good that you look a little deeper for your clients."

I have followed up with an e-mail to the fine folks at American Memorabilia inquiring as to how or if claims of provenance are verified. If/when I receive a response, I will post that information here as well.

Best regards,

[CollectGU]

Re: A Word of Caution Re: Hinek Collection Items

Is Mr. Hinek stating that he never traded jerseys with any other equipment managers as stated?

Thanks,
Dave

[EndzoneSports]

Re: A Word of Caution Re: Hinek Collection Items

Is Mr. Hinek stating that he never traded jerseys with any other equipment managers as stated?

Thanks,
Dave

Dave:

The question regarding trades amongst contemporaries never came up. Hinek's assertion is that any owned items were not ever and are not now available for sale. As such, claims that the Elway/Marino jerseys in question "came directly from the former San Francisco 49ers equipment manager Bronco Hinek" (as stated in the Marino auction listing) have been denied as being false.

Regards,

[commando]

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Any updates on this?

[toddhead]

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Mr. Scoggin,

Can you please shoot me an e-mail at headingtontd.ctr@mcnosc.usmc.mil I tried to go through your site, but it doesn't seem work through my work internet.