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Thread: Steroids--YOUR cost! $$$
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02-16-2006, 03:49 PM #21
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Re: Steroids--YOUR cost! $$$
Ok Your right Roger maris did have 8 more days then babe ruth. So then barry bonds records should be taken away because he had more time then babe ruth.
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02-16-2006, 03:56 PM #22
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Originally Posted by earlywynnfan
Thanks for your comments, they are less biased than the comments posted above yours.
People want to live in the USA but they want to dictate the law as it was in 1980s Russia. Nice double standards.
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02-16-2006, 03:58 PM #23
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Originally Posted by yanks12025
Maybe you and your father should post on this forum together because it appears you post all by yourself.
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02-16-2006, 04:36 PM #24
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Joel:
Our justice system, like any other system put together by humans is imperfect. Every day, innocent people are convicted, and guilty people go free.
Remember the "s**t sandwich" metaphor: the more bread you have, the less s**t you have to eat!
One day during the OJ fiasco, I was asked if I thought the LAPD had planted evidence while searching OJ's house. I replied: "yes, and I believe he's guilty, too." The cops were trying not to eat the sandwich.
(Dragging us somewhat back on topic) guys who juice to "hit their way off the island" or to stay competitive at the highest levels of the sport, are trying not to eat the sandwich.
In the end, however...we all eat the sandwich!Mark
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02-16-2006, 06:03 PM #25
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You dont have to talk to me like im a retard. We all have different opinion's on things in life.
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02-16-2006, 06:44 PM #26
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Re: Steroids--YOUR cost! $$$
Originally Posted by yanks12025
I have no problem with your views.
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02-16-2006, 07:32 PM #27
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Re: Steroids--YOUR cost! $$$
This is still the United States of America, right? Innocent until proven guilty, right? So Palmiero should fry in hell for what happened to him?
Joel,
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal requirment after one has been charged, indicted, etc and is going through the United States criminal justice system. The judge or jury MUST presume an accused as innocent until proven guilty. They are the only ones that must adhere to this requirment. The general public has every right to prejudge a person's guilt or innocence on any subject, right or wrong. One need not be convicted of any crime for a citizen to speak out on their opinion on any case. There is no presumption of innocence on anyone not charged with a crime, and the only people that are bound by that presumption once they are chaged is the jurist(s).
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02-16-2006, 08:35 PM #28
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Originally Posted by Fraudfinder!!
I don't mind a debate, but this isn't a court so people are innocent until proven guilty by our court system.
What has been proven against Bonds that he should be fried?
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02-16-2006, 08:53 PM #29
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Damn, I was really hoping this thread would stay on track. I was curious to hear people's observations on McGwire, Sosa, and Giambi's game equipment values. Oh well.
On the steriod issue, I believe they have been illegal in the United States without a doctor's perscription since 1991. Last time I checked baseball's rules didn't trump the laws of the USA. I don't think baseball has a rule that states you can't murder someone. You get where I am going with this.
So maybe the can't be kicked out of baseball for breaking a yet to exist baseball rule but that argument isn't going to prevent them from going to jail if it gets to that point (which it most likely won't.)
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02-16-2006, 09:05 PM #30
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Joel,
Will you be convinced that more than just a few people are absolutely certain that Bonds was a roid'er when he fails to get voted into the HOF?
I'll go on record now predicting that all the players I've mentioned thus far (Bonds/Mcgwire/Palmeiro/Canseco) will not get 1st ballot entry in the HOF at a minimum, and it is possibly they may never get in. This despite the inarguable fact that Bonds/Mcgwire/Palmeiro all have "no-brainer" 1st ballot career stats.