Post Your Stolen Or Lost Items!!!!

[David]

If the were stolen from him, they are his not yours. You can't legally purchase and own items that are stolen.

However, you don't know that they were stolen. Just because he says she stole them, doesn't automatically prove it true. In a marital property marriage, the wife owns the stuff as much as the husband, and she may or may not have assumed legal ownership after breakup.

If they were stolen, you would have legal right to get your money back.

[David]

You should try and contact the wife, as she may offer a different version of the events, possibly with a divorce lawyer to back it up.

[yanks12025]

Did this happen or are you just asking to find what you could do if it ever happened. If it did happen like you are saying he would need to show proof that they were stolen, and if he did then their his.

[David]

One last note-- and I should say I have no opinion on the ownership of your items, and am offering no opinion on the coach--, but I once had a player's lawyer contact me to say an expensive item I won at auction was stolen from the player and I should return it. After minimal research by the auction house president, records showed that the item was not only never stolen from the player, but the player never owned it. I gave these facts to the lawyer, and he never returned message. So I learned that just because someone official claims something was stolen, doesn't automatically mean it was stolen.

[David]

I agree with Yanks. Even if they are stolen, he has to have proof of it. Legal recovery of items involves more than pointing at random things on the street and saying "That was stolen from me." You have to provide proof.

[David]

One last little tidbit to ponder about vintage equipment, like jerseys, pants, shoes, equipment bag. Was a player ever the owner of the items? Or were they always owned by the team? If a player took home his equipment bag after the season, did he have legal right to the bag? How much of an old time player's stuff was taken without permission from his employer? Likely quite a bit.

[Danny899]

One last note-- and I should say I have no opinion on the ownership of your items, and am offering no opinion on the coach--, but I once had a player's lawyer contact me to say an expensive item I won at auction was stolen from the player and I should return it. After minimal research by the auction house president, records showed that the item was not only never stolen from the player, but the player never owned it. I gave these facts to the lawyer, and he never returned message. So I learned that just because someone official claims something was stolen, doesn't automatically mean it was stolen.

You are quite correct. Anyone can make an allegation of theft. If it was in fact stolen there should be a police report documenting the theft. Then if it turns up down the road it is in fact stolen property. Of course proving intent is a whole different story.

[jppopma]

Remember that possession is 9/10 of the law! If you have them, he will need to prove that they legally belong to him. If they are that important to him, I'm sure they would be listed as going to him in divorce papers. The who's property is who's is all up to the court to decide and it will all be spelled out.


Even then he will be hard pressed to prove that THOSE shoes are indeed the ones that were stolen by his wife. I'm sure he wore many a pair through his career and can't positively keep track of all of them.

Enough with the legal stuff....your best bet is to get him to sign the shoes and offer him to add a note to her COA with some kind references to her. I'm sure getting to deface (or add in our opinions) her COA would be very therapeutic for him. In the end you end up with a one of a kind COA and a great collectibe.

[rose14]

Jim may want those cleats back when he has to fend off all the guys in prison which he should be sent to after killing that person drinking & driving.

[commando]

At this point, it would be unrealistic to get the cleats signed. Just my humble opinion.