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Thread: Catfish Hunter Yankees jersey?
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02-08-2008, 03:49 PM #1
Catfish Hunter Yankees jersey?
Question about the number style in the mastro Catfish Hunter game used jersey. It is listed as "1975-79"
http://www.mastroauctions.com/index....s&CurrentRow=1
Here is a photo from getty dated 1975-79 which matches this style
I'm used to seeing the #2 curve up on Yankees jerseys like the photo below.
I'm used to the #9 looking like this (look at nettles on the right side)
Does anyone know when exactly this different font was used? Occasionally Steiner sells items with a different font like
EricAlways looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...
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02-08-2008, 04:08 PM #2
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Re: Catfish Hunter Yankees jersey?
Nice jersey! I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable if it came with an independant LOA. It'll be interesting to see whether or not their prices will be weaker without MEARS working with them.
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02-08-2008, 07:01 PM #3
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i would like to know what yankee experts think of the strip tag in the collar.
in my limited experience, the strip tags on 75-79 yankee shirts had the last name as well as the year and set.
like this:
also seen here:
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=35293
http://www.mearsonline.com/forsale/item/?id=2785
then again, here's a '75 shirt with just the name:
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=6894
perhaps that narrows down the year to '75?
i would also like to know if anyone else thinks the strip tag appears noticeably different/brighter than the rest of the jersey.
as well, i'm curious why the back numbers show massive puckering yet the button placket shows none. given the wash wear on the back numbers, i'm curious what the jersey actually feels like.
in my experience, many font inconsistances aren't due to the manufacturer but to a local shop.
thanks in advance,
rudy.
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02-08-2008, 11:18 PM #4
Re: Catfish Hunter Yankees jersey?
The folks at Robert Edward Auctions sold a 1975 Catfish Hunter game used jersey with "Hunter" sewn in the collar. It is signed in the collar. and is not trimmed.
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...11.html#photosAlways looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...
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02-08-2008, 11:22 PM #5
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the 1975 doc medich found in bob malandro's steiner blog has the other more traditional font (the jersey had a number change and may have been recycled), but just the last name in the collar
http://steinersportsmarketing.com/bl...dichjersey.jpgAlways looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...
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02-08-2008, 11:43 PM #6
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perhaps there's a correlation between the atypical strip tag and 1975/rawlings yankee shirts. perhaps you've also just nailed down the year of mastro's jersey.
if it were a wilson shirt, it'd seem that you'd expect to see the typical grey strip tag seen on 70s and 80s yankee shirts. the strip tag seen on the mastro and robert edward jerseys is atypical though and perhaps that can be attributed to them being rawlings shirts.
the robert edwards shirt also has the same number font as the mastro shirt.
when a manufacturer ships a certain years worth of jerseys to a team, in my experience the fonts are usually consistent. when the team has a local shop do up some jerseys, that's when font inconsistancies can occur. however, i suppose they'd also occur when you switch manufacturers from wilson to rawlings.
rudy.
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02-08-2008, 11:49 PM #7
Re: Catfish Hunter Yankees jersey?
1975 velez has just last name in collar
http://www.huntauctions.com/online/i...=243&lot_qual=Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...
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02-09-2008, 12:20 AM #8
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welp..there you have it then. a 1975 rawlings shirt.
eric, i'd like to say we could split the authentication fee but i have a feeling that it'll be going to the folks who called it a '75-79 shirt.
anyway, it's not just the last name. the tag itself is unique. seems different in color, material, and stitching that the wilson strip tags seen during that era.
would be interesting to know if the '75 rawlings shirts also all came with that unique number font straight from the factory. the medich shirt doesn't count because it's had a number change. i wonder if the original number was in the same font as seen on the mastro and robert edwards shirts.
rudy.
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02-11-2008, 12:08 PM #9
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Re: Catfish Hunter Yankees jersey?
RUDY AGAIN ME AND YOU THINK ALIKE, THAT WAS THE VERY FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND IS THE TAGGING IS A BIT ODD.
ALSO I HAVE SEEN A GAME USED 70'S HUNTER YANKEE JERSEY FROM STEINER AND THE BOTTOM WAS NOT CUT.
PLUS THE FONT LOOKS OFF.
PERSONALLY FOR ME THIS JERSEY HAS TOO MANY ?'S
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02-11-2008, 01:34 PM #10
Re: Catfish Hunter Yankees jersey?
mears discusses this jersey here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/42624...ro%27s+Auction
the assumption all around seems to be that it's a '75 rawlings shirt.
what i'd really want to see though is the actual cut bottom. the assumption is that it was cut sometime during '75, while hunter was playing. if that's the case, then that was a long time ago and the jersey would have presumably gone through many a team washing after it was cut. that's the legit scenario. the illegitimate scenario is that it was cut more recently/long after hunter stopped using it.
if it was cut during '75 for some legit purpose and sustained many a subsequent washing, i'd like to see the edges of the cut. specifically, i'd like to see if the edges are sharp or if they show some minor fraying where the threads have started to disassemble. the original hem on the bottom prevented the threads from fraying. i think if you took a jersey, cut the bottom, and then subjected it to rigorous use and a multitude of harsh washings, the unhemmed edges would become somewhat frayed, loose, and it may even be possible for the cut edges to start curling up. given the massive wear shown on the rest of the jersey, it'd be accurate to expect the edges to show the same degree of wear.
conversely, if you took a jersey, cut it, and never subjected to any use afterwards, the edges would be pretty sharp and intact. i suppose for me, a big question would be how worn are the edges? it would tell me if it had likely been cut legitimately during '75 or if it had been cut long after and never used after the cut.
rudy.