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    Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

    It's been very surprising what a firestorm was created simply from me finding an old Beckett article and posting it to answer another member's question regarding why Dave was banned from Ebay. When I read the article and posted it, I didn't even think it had much to do with Miedema.
    I posted it without any commentary because I had no clue about what went down 6 yrs ago. I was also unaware that apparently every member on this Forum already knew about the entire situation. (Personally, I don't believe that the value in learning of an incident is negated simply because it happened years ago.)

    At any rate, I've read Dave's reply on MEARS and his last line caught my attention:

    "Hopefully, this will end the need to regurgitate negative press from the last century"

    Dave..et al.. regardless of how much you wish it would, this incident is not going to disappear from history. People in this hobby who are unaware of the incident are going to keep running into the name Dave Miedema and North Shore Sports. They're going to notice the name has been banned on Ebay. Like me, they're going to be completely unaware of what went down and so they're naturally going to ask questions and use Google. There's no way to stop that from happening. To think that this incident will never be brought up again simply because it was addressed this week is naive. Dave, the mere posting of the Beckett article did not constitute an attack or pissing match. It was one collector, me, finding information they were unaware of and sharing it with others. This is going to continue to happen in the future. Rather than wishing it was never spoken of again, why not see it as a valuable lesson for new collectors, dealers, and authenticators? Mistakes were made. The value is in having others learn from them, not from saying "let's never regurgitate this again". Not only is that idea unrealistic, but it negates any positive consequences that may come out of the whole thing.

    You..and anyone else...know where to find me.. petrucious2000@yahoo.com

    Rudy.

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    Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

    I forgot to say.... thanks as well to Dave for sharing his side. All in all, it seems to me that far more good come out of this thread than bad.

    Rudy.

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    Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

    Rudy, as I privately emailed you, I didn't find your post to be bad because there have been quite a few questions asked about people in the article lately.

    I think it helped show that Dave Miedema has a nice following in this hobby and that the old timers know Dave was caught in the middle of a bad situation.

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    Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

    Although I really don't know Dave very well, I enjoyed his SCD articles and he was very helpful to me with my jersey questions. It seems to me he got a raw deal by SCD. He deserved better and I hope the MEARS job works out well for him. Just for informational purposes, I have attached his LOA from 1995. You can see how those with bad intentions could have manipulated the form. - Kevin
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    Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

    After watching these forums for a while, finally something to say. I am glad to say that I have met Dave back in his "show days" almost 20 years ago and am able to join everyone else who can stand up for him.

    I am sure that I am not alone in the group of people that he introduced to the hobby and taught them the ropes. He alwyas had time to explain the jerseys and show you what to look for to not get ripped off. I can say for myself, these early lessons have saved me many times.

    There is not too much more to say than has already been covered on him in these posts. Dave was, and probably always will be, a purist for the hobby its good to see that he did not get turned off by all that happened. While we all like to collect for the investment reasons, we have to remember to look past all of the technology today and enjoy the hobby and our collections like Dave always has.

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