Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

[trsent]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

Here is an interesting positive post about Dave Miedema.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/426247/message/1134004730/Dave+Miedema+on+ESPN.COM

The link in the post you have to pay to see the whole article, but Dave Grob did post the part about Dave Miedema that was posted in the espn.com article.

[Patrick002]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

So, is there a follow-up on what ever happens to Steve Levine and North Shore Sports? For those who bought bad merchandise from him, were they able to recoup their losses? I remember Steve Ryan(Levine) ran a live auction during the 1996 National Convention in Anaheim.

Thanks Rudy for posting the old news because I am sure there are newbies here that would love to know a little bit of the past.

[hblakewolf]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

Forum readers-
I was told that Levine/Ryan is back in the family coin business.

Say what you want about North Shore Sports, however, they did have some great LEGIT equipment. When Ryan first opened North Shore, his Jordan equipment was rock solid and some of the best in the hobby. Only later on did he begin to have "suspect" jerseys that had tags sewn in from other commons, etc.

On a personal note, I consigned quite a bit of equipment to him, and he was bringing top dollar. Once the FBI got involved and shut him down, things really went South. When the FBI confiscated all of his contents (both personal and those from consignors), many dealers had their items held by the FBI for evidence. I had about 20 items held, and it took about a year for me to get them returned. It was the strangest situation-out of the blue, I received a phone call from our local FBI office, and was informed that my items would be personally returned to be the following day. Sure enough, a FBI officer appeared at my home with 3 boxes of equipment. I signed a release, took the boxes, and never saw the FBI agent or heard from the authorities again.

I did learn an important lesson in the uniform/equipment business, however. When an auction house is late in paying consignors or begins to develop a bad reputation-RUN. I have seen it first hand, and will NEVER put myself in that situation again. Neither should you.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[Patrick002]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

Say what you want about North Shore Sports, however, they did have some great LEGIT equipment. When Ryan first opened North Shore, his Jordan equipment was rock solid and some of the best in the hobby. Only later on did he begin to have "suspect" jerseys that had tags sewn in from other commons, etc.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

Howard,

You mentioned that he had some rock solidt Jordan equipment early on. Do you have a rough timeline of when his stuff became suspectible?

[ChrisCavalier]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

Hello Everyone-

For those of us who were surprised to see Dave Miedema's name on the eBay list (with the misspelling and all), I was pleased to see Mr. Miedema post something on the MEARS site which provides his perspective regarding the eBay situation. I think it would be helpful for everyone to read it. While I don't know Mr. Miedema personally, and know absolutely nothing about his relations with North Shore Sports, I, for one, very much appreciated Mr. Miedema taking the time to share his side of the story.

Here is a link to the message on the MEARS site. Hopefully, as was the reason I think the question was even asked, this can help those unfamiliar with the situation gain a better understanding. I hope those at eBay have the chance to read it as well:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/426247/message/1141149977/A+Word+From+Dave+Miedema

Sincerely,
Christopher Cavalier
CEO - Game Used Universe

[kingjammy24]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

It's been very surprising what a firestorm was created simply from me finding an old Beckett article and posting it to answer another member's question regarding why Dave was banned from Ebay. When I read the article and posted it, I didn't even think it had much to do with Miedema.
I posted it without any commentary because I had no clue about what went down 6 yrs ago. I was also unaware that apparently every member on this Forum already knew about the entire situation. (Personally, I don't believe that the value in learning of an incident is negated simply because it happened years ago.)

At any rate, I've read Dave's reply on MEARS and his last line caught my attention:

"Hopefully, this will end the need to regurgitate negative press from the last century"

Dave..et al.. regardless of how much you wish it would, this incident is not going to disappear from history. People in this hobby who are unaware of the incident are going to keep running into the name Dave Miedema and North Shore Sports. They're going to notice the name has been banned on Ebay. Like me, they're going to be completely unaware of what went down and so they're naturally going to ask questions and use Google. There's no way to stop that from happening. To think that this incident will never be brought up again simply because it was addressed this week is naive. Dave, the mere posting of the Beckett article did not constitute an attack or pissing match. It was one collector, me, finding information they were unaware of and sharing it with others. This is going to continue to happen in the future. Rather than wishing it was never spoken of again, why not see it as a valuable lesson for new collectors, dealers, and authenticators? Mistakes were made. The value is in having others learn from them, not from saying "let's never regurgitate this again". Not only is that idea unrealistic, but it negates any positive consequences that may come out of the whole thing.

You..and anyone else...know where to find me.. petrucious2000@yahoo.com

Rudy.

[kingjammy24]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

I forgot to say.... thanks as well to Dave for sharing his side. All in all, it seems to me that far more good come out of this thread than bad.

Rudy.

[trsent]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

Rudy, as I privately emailed you, I didn't find your post to be bad because there have been quite a few questions asked about people in the article lately.

I think it helped show that Dave Miedema has a nice following in this hobby and that the old timers know Dave was caught in the middle of a bad situation.

[BaseballGM]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

Although I really don't know Dave very well, I enjoyed his SCD articles and he was very helpful to me with my jersey questions. It seems to me he got a raw deal by SCD. He deserved better and I hope the MEARS job works out well for him. Just for informational purposes, I have attached his LOA from 1995. You can see how those with bad intentions could have manipulated the form. - Kevin

[jppopma]

Re: Dave Miedema, Grey Flannel, North Shore Sports

After watching these forums for a while, finally something to say. I am glad to say that I have met Dave back in his "show days" almost 20 years ago and am able to join everyone else who can stand up for him.

I am sure that I am not alone in the group of people that he introduced to the hobby and taught them the ropes. He alwyas had time to explain the jerseys and show you what to look for to not get ripped off. I can say for myself, these early lessons have saved me many times.

There is not too much more to say than has already been covered on him in these posts. Dave was, and probably always will be, a purist for the hobby its good to see that he did not get turned off by all that happened. While we all like to collect for the investment reasons, we have to remember to look past all of the technology today and enjoy the hobby and our collections like Dave always has.

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