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05-14-2008, 02:25 AM #1
Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)
Looks like the guys that sell Vlad game used items on ebay are at it again, they took the so called "most famous" bat of the 2007 home run derby that was sold on ebay a few weeks ago and re-listed the same bat, the only problem is that they added a lot of pine tar, "2007" and a ball mark near the engraved name area to make it look like the same bat Vlad used to win the HR derby.
If you look closely at the autograph it's exactly the same and you can also see the same wood grain that matches up on the original bat. Looks like they went over the "Game Used" with a black sharpie pen.
I e-mailed the ebay buyer and informed him that he was being taken and last I heard from him was that he was working on getting his money back!
Let me know what you guys think and Tony do you know what your committing here, it's called "FRAUD" I looked up the definition on Webster's dictionary for you:
1.deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.
2.a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.
3.any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.
4.a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.
New ebay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/VLADIMIR-GUERRER...QQcmdZViewItem
First ebay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/VLADIMIR-GUERRER...QQcmdZViewItem
Original game used forum thread:
http://www.gameuseduniverse.net/vb_f...ad.php?t=15955
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05-14-2008, 06:48 AM #2
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)
Wow The bat is an exact match the grain that goes along the "V" where the 2007 is now and under the word Used is dead on. WHAT A SCAM.
Now we know never to buy a bat from these guys.
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05-14-2008, 07:56 AM #3
Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)
What is your theory on where the "2007" went that was written in black sharpie under "Game Used?"
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05-14-2008, 07:57 AM #4
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05-14-2008, 09:14 AM #5
Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)
The "game used" is not legit either.
Notice the differences in the G and E's
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05-14-2008, 09:26 AM #6
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05-14-2008, 08:15 PM #7
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)
If you look at the less used bat it has a point at the top of the wood grain that goes all the way into the game used inscription. Also near the other end of that point there is a little hump that is not on the other bat. Also the pictures you posted the markings don't even look the same. You could find the same markings on any vlad game used bat. I still think they are 2 different bat's and I know I'm in the minority.
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05-14-2008, 08:18 PM #8
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05-14-2008, 06:54 PM #9
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)
Looking close at the pictures I don't thing these 2 bats are the same. Look at the 27 under the signature they are different. Also the so called wood grain match is also slightly different. I thing you guys were a little to hasty to put this one down. Thats my thoughts anyway
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05-14-2008, 07:01 PM #10
Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)
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