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  • RKGIBSON
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 581

    Question on new classified

    Could the administrators please explain the thinking behind the $500.00 limit on the items posted in the for sale section? I personally was disappointed to see this.

    Roger
  • frikativ54
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 3612

    #2
    Re: Question on new classified

    Unfortunately, the powers that be are more concerned with their "good name", than they are with what the GUU collecting community wants. This is ironic because Game Used Universe does not have a very good name outside of this website, where the initiated constantly extol Chris Cavalier, et al. at every juncture. In short, GUU is afraid of being held responsible for larger dollar transactions. Moreover, GUU is becoming a wannabe auction house. Instead of posting a big ticket item for sale, you will have to send it in, and the "expert authenticators" will certify it in the name of the omnicient entity that is GUU. Then you will know with 110% certitude that your memorabilia is authentic.
    Les Zukor
    bagwellgameused@gmail.com
    Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

    http://www.bagwellgameused.com
    (617) 682-0408

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    • Vintagedeputy
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3172

      #3
      Re: Question on new classified

      Originally posted by frikativ54
      Unfortunately, the powers that be are more concerned with their "good name", than they are with what the GUU collecting community wants. This is ironic because Game Used Universe does not have a very good name outside of this website, where the initiated constantly extol Chris Cavalier, et al. at every juncture. In short, GUU is afraid of being held responsible for larger dollar transactions. Moreover, GUU is becoming a wannabe auction house. Instead of posting a big ticket item for sale, you will have to send it in, and the "expert authenticators" will certify it in the name of the omnicient entity that is GUU. Then you will know with 110% certitude that your memorabilia is authentic.

      Wow frik, you just keep pissing into the wind....nice to see that you have heeded the advice of those trying to help you out.

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      • allstarsplus
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 3707

        #4
        Re: Question on new classified

        Originally posted by frikativ54
        Unfortunately, the powers that be are more concerned with their "good name", than they are with what the GUU collecting community wants.
        Frik - You made a bold statement above so tell us, what does the GUU collecting community want?
        Regards,
        Andrew Lang
        AllstarsPlus@aol.com
        202-716-8500

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        • TFig27
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 1214

          #5
          Re: Question on new classified

          Originally posted by allstarsplus
          Frik - You made a bold statement above so tell us, what does the GUU collecting community want?
          a $5 footlong from Subway?
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          • frikativ54
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 3612

            #6
            Re: Question on new classified

            Originally posted by allstarsplus
            Frik - You made a bold statement above so tell us, what does the GUU collecting community want?
            From reading this site, a good number of people just want the old "for sale" section back. Everybody voiced their opinions, and the majority don't like the arbitrary $500 limit. And many agreed with me that dealers should be allowed to post their blow-out sales here. It seems as if a few of you aren't reading the same forum I am reading.
            Les Zukor
            bagwellgameused@gmail.com
            Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

            http://www.bagwellgameused.com
            (617) 682-0408

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            • allstarsplus
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 3707

              #7
              Re: Question on new classified

              Originally posted by frikativ54
              It seems as if a few of you aren't reading the same forum I am reading.
              You are giving a small portion of what a group that has voiced their opinion want only with regards to the "For Sale" section.

              I thought you were going to give a broader insight into what the GUU collecting community wants.

              GUF is so much more than the "For Sale".

              As a dealer, I am prohibited from listing on the "For Sale". I understand that Chris wants the "For Sale" to be for Collector to Collector not Dealer to Collector. Its his site.
              Regards,
              Andrew Lang
              AllstarsPlus@aol.com
              202-716-8500

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              • ndevlin
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1362

                #8
                Re: Question on new classified

                I dont see a "huge" problem with the $500 limit. At least there is a section now, right? My opinion, not only the limit for security purposes, but it also could make you give in to sending your high end items($500+) for GUU future auctions.

                I personally dont care whether or not if we have a "For Sale" section. And I def. dont care about the rules that go along with it. I just had a problem with how it was handled. The wait, the deadlines that werent fulfilled, the new system they were testing for months to only throw all away for what we have now in a 3 day span. Like I said, I just didnt like how the whole thing was handled. Maybe in a more professional manner?

                Security purposes? Sure!

                Another way of saying, hey, send your high end items our way for our future GUU auctions? Perhaps

                I gave my opinion, like everyone else does. I respect yours, please respect mine.

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                • sylbry
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 936

                  #9
                  Re: Question on new classified

                  Originally posted by frikativ54
                  Unfortunately, the powers that be are more concerned with their "good name", than they are with what the GUU collecting community wants.
                  The GUU collecting community also wants you to stop your bitching.

                  Chris Cavelier & Co pay the bills. They can do whatever they want. End of story.
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                  • ironmanfan
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 2252

                    #10
                    Re: Question on new classified

                    Originally posted by frikativ54
                    Unfortunately, the powers that be are more concerned with their "good name", than they are with what the GUU collecting community wants. This is ironic because Game Used Universe does not have a very good name outside of this website, where the initiated constantly extol Chris Cavalier, et al. at every juncture.
                    Frk, WHERE exactly does GUU NOT have a good name? Everyone I've ever met at shows, email discussions, etc. have nothing but praise for this board and the information it passes on and the fraud it exposes. I would think the only people that wouldn't think highly of GUU would be the Grey Flannels, Heritages, AMI's and Lou Lampsons of the world (is that your circle of friends?).

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                    • B1SON
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 468

                      #11
                      Re: Question on new classified

                      Originally posted by sylbry
                      The GUU collecting community also wants you to stop your bitching.

                      Chris Cavelier & Co pay the bills. They can do whatever they want. End of story.



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                      • frikativ54
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3612

                        #12
                        Re: Question on new classified

                        Originally posted by ironmanfan
                        Frk, WHERE exactly does GUU NOT have a good name? Everyone I've ever met at shows, email discussions, etc. have nothing but praise for this board and the information it passes on and the fraud it exposes. I would think the only people that wouldn't think highly of GUU would be the Grey Flannels, Heritages, AMI's and Lou Lampsons of the world (is that your circle of friends?).
                        Dealers often say that Game Used Universe overlooks when its own senior members sell questionable items. Plus, there is a lot of complaining about a few "suspect" dealers, without a whole lot of substance to back it up. For example, people make continuous jokes about Lou Lampson, and there hasn't been enough credible information about him lately to implicate him in certifying bad items. And it's not just one person in the hobby; a number of people don't think highly of Game Used Universe. I would agree that there is good information on here, but there is also a lot of mocking behavior that doesn't benefit the hobby. BTW - I don't know anyone from the aforementioned companies.
                        Les Zukor
                        bagwellgameused@gmail.com
                        Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

                        http://www.bagwellgameused.com
                        (617) 682-0408

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                        • Dewey2007
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 2566

                          #13
                          Re: Question on new classified

                          Originally posted by RKGIBSON
                          Could the administrators please explain the thinking behind the $500.00 limit on the items posted in the for sale section? I personally was disappointed to see this.

                          Roger
                          It seems to me that Roger asked the administrators to please explain the reasoning behind the $500 limit. Let's let them handle this one. Please don't let Frik's comments bait everyone into another never-ending thread.
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                          • frikativ54
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3612

                            #14
                            Re: Question on new classified

                            Originally posted by Dewey2007
                            It seems to me that Roger asked the administrators to please explain the reasoning behind the $500 limit. Let's let them handle this one. Please don't let Frik's comments bait everyone into another never-ending thread.
                            I have given the OP a sufficient answer. Here are the three reasons for the new "Collector to Collector Classifieds" forum's $500 limit:

                            1) Liability - They do not want to be held responsible for fake items.

                            2) Reputation - They do not want fake big ticket items to tarnish their "good name".

                            3) Money - They are interested in lining their own pockets with the money that is the fruit of auction-style listings

                            I don't know how I can spell out their intent any clearer than this.
                            Les Zukor
                            bagwellgameused@gmail.com
                            Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

                            http://www.bagwellgameused.com
                            (617) 682-0408

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                            • Vintagedeputy
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3172

                              #15
                              Re: Question on new classified

                              Originally posted by frikativ54
                              For example, people make continuous jokes about Lou Lampson, and there hasn't been enough credible information about him lately to implicate him in certifying bad items.

                              ok, inquiring minds want to know...how is the weather on the planet you are from?

                              What GUF are YOU reading for you to say that there isnt enough information about Lou certifying bad items?

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