Dave Kingman Bat Records

[skyking26]

Thanks Mike. I have been a collector of Kingman bats and memorabilia for some 25 years or more. While I have many of the bats listed, I see there are others that I will need to pursue...

Was wondering, do the shipping records glean any other information, such as bat finishes or other specs that Dave would have been especially "picky" about? Again, thank you - as you have been more complete than HB ever was regarding information thru the years...

Robert Koppel

[MSpecht]

Hi Robert --

Dave Kingman ordered "FB" (Flame Burned) finishes on 95 % of all orders from 1970 to 1983. From 1984 to the end of his career, including the Senior League, he ordered all Natural finishes.

It sounds like you are trying to get one of each game-used model of Kingman's...I had the same idea with Willie McCovey at one time, but stopped after about six different models. Then, when I was able to have access to Mac's h & B records, I was glad I had abandoned that idea. I hope you have better luck. Here are some Kingman distribution numbers that may help.

With Kingman, the majority of his bats were (regardless of cupped or round), roughly in most-ordered to least-ordered, as follows: S2, C271, W215, and C243. They should be the relatively easy ones.

The next level should be, in no particular order, J93 - 15 bats in 1974-1975; R161 - 24 bats in 1978-1980; H4 - 16 bats in 1970-1972; R161 - 24 bats in 1978 and 1980,

The more difficult ones will be (in no particular order):P72 - 3 bats in 1971; M159 - 6 bats in 1979; O16 - 6 bats in 1974; K75 - 12 bats in 1973, S216 - 6 bats in 1974, and M110 - 12 bats in 1970 and 1976.

Regarding the models he had made to his specifications, distribution was K140 - 12 bats in 1980 and K10 - 12 bats in 1981.

If you have any specific questions on any specific Kingman bat you have or are considering, drop me a line. Good Luck.

Mike

[skyking26]

Thanks Mike:

For as many years as I have been in this, learning that there are other models out there: M159, P72, K75, O16, M110, K140, K10 Adirondack, it would appear the search continues! As a collector, I would guess we all want the hunt to continue as long as we get a bat here and there. 2005 was a great year for me having obtained and early Giants Adironadck, H4 and H174, C271 Louisville's.

The first 7 models I list must be extremely tough, as from '80 to present I have never seen them...

If further info can be given as to quantity ordered of any given model, that would probably be as conclusive as we can get??!! I still remember the days when a Kingman gamer could be had for $75. Then 100, 150, 200, 300, etc.

Bob Koppel
Dave Kingman Supercollector

[skyking26]

PS - Any info on Worth and Adirondack records?? Thanks - Bob

[MSpecht]

Hi Bob--

in re-reading my last post I see that I didn't list the H174 (cupped). there were 2 orders totaling 16 bats in 1975 35 1/2 inches / 34 1/2 ounces, FB finish. Let me know how the hunt progresses.

Mike

[skyking26]

Mike:

We did not discuss the Kingman bat model S188. I have this model which is a Louisville not and old label HB. What do records show of this??

As always, anyone with info pertaining to selling Dave Kingman game used bats or other equipment, please keep me advised as I am always interested:

Bob Koppel
skyking442@hotmail.com
Evening Phone: (810)364-1713

[suave1477]

Just to let you know there is a dave kingman aigned and autographed game used bat on grey flannel

[MSpecht]

Hi Bob--

In Kingman's factory records from 1970 through 1996 there is no documention of any Model S188 Kingman bats having been sent to him at any time. From 1982 to 1996 the records also show bats sent to other "customers" such as Baseball Promotions, Baseball Miscellaneous, and other promotional companies. In Kingman's records, again, there is no documentation of any orders ofKingman S188 bats going to any destination.

Mike