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  • jdr3
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 340

    GFC Lot 159

    Can anyone explain why a fake Ewing autograph would be on a "game used Patrick Ewing Georgetown jersey"?
  • lund6771
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 805

    #2
    Re: GFC Lot 159

    I was wondering the same thing!

    Ewing was one of my favorite players growing up and was thinking about bidding on this till I read that as well

    It may be a good jersey, but I'm not even gonna mess with it if it has a bad autograph...

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    • kingjammy24
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 3119

      #3
      Re: GFC Lot 159

      hiya jim

      i'll venture a guess. whoever put the autograph on thought it would boost the value. maybe they figured that if the jersey was worth X amount then they'd make it worth even more with the signature. greed. stupidity.

      personally i think a forged autograph slaughters the value of a legit game-used piece unless someone can skillfully remove the autograph.

      rudy.

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      • jdr3
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 340

        #4
        Re: GFC Lot 159

        Hey Rudy-

        Great to hear from you! You have the best eye on this forum. Note how the W in Grey Flannel's Ewing is the same height as the right and left portions of the letter. Now note the photos from 1983 & 1984, when GU used this style, and notice that the middle part of the W does not reach that high.
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        • hblakewolf
          Banned
          • Nov 2005
          • 1870

          #5
          Re: GFC Lot 159

          Originally posted by jdr3
          Hey Rudy-

          Great to hear from you! You have the best eye on this forum. Note how the W in Grey Flannel's Ewing is the same height as the right and left portions of the letter. Now note the photos from 1983 & 1984, when GU used this style, and notice that the middle part of the W does not reach that high.
          Also note the actual positioning of the individual letters on the plate. The Grey Flannel plate has a significantly tighter name (less space between each letter) and the actual air space on all sides of the name plate is less on the Grey Flannel example as compared to those in the photos.

          It's crucial, however, to compare photos and evidence from the 1983 season, based on the shirt being attributed to that season.

          I'd enjoy having Rudy or any other Forum reader provide additional photos that may provide additional evidence as to the legitimacy of the shirt in question.

          Howard Wolf
          hblakewolf@comcast.net

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          • lund6771
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 805

            #6
            Re: GFC Lot 159

            can anyone find one pic to match the Grey Flannel jersey?....Just one?

            anyone?...anywhere?...or is this another P.O.S

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            • lund6771
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 805

              #7
              Re: GFC Lot 159

              by the way JDR3 ..great pics

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              • otismalibu
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 1650

                #8
                Re: GFC Lot 159

                The Es are different as well.

                Are those twill letters on both?
                Greg
                DrJStuff.com

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                • otismalibu
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1650

                  #9
                  Re: GFC Lot 159

                  Greg
                  DrJStuff.com

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                  • lund6771
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 805

                    #10
                    Re: GFC Lot 159

                    I wonder if they will pull this thing....any thoughts?...

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                    • otismalibu
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1650

                      #11
                      Re: GFC Lot 159

                      I wonder if they will pull this thing....any thoughts?...
                      I don't think it has ever been Grey Flannel's policy to present visual evidence to support their opinion of an item.
                      Greg
                      DrJStuff.com

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                      • jdr3
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 340

                        #12
                        Re: GFC Lot 159

                        Here is the same comparison of the front of the jersey. Can anyone see any differences between the GFC model and the actual game model?
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                        • otismalibu
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1650

                          #13
                          Re: GFC Lot 159

                          Here is the same comparison of the front of the jersey. Can anyone see any differences between the GFC model and the actual game model?
                          You mean other than the numbers?

                          Greg
                          DrJStuff.com

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                          • trsent
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3739

                            #14
                            Re: GFC Lot 159

                            Originally posted by otismalibu
                            I don't think it has ever been Grey Flannel's policy to present visual evidence to support their opinion of an item.
                            Is this a policy listed on their web site or in their catalogs? Inquiring minds wish to know.

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                            • otismalibu
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 1650

                              #15
                              Re: GFC Lot 159

                              Is this a policy listed on their web site or in their catalogs? Inquiring minds wish to know.
                              I'm basing that assumption on the fact that they've never sent me photographic evidence when I've pointed out characteristics on their items that seem a little out of the ordinary.
                              When I did receive their catalogs, I don't recall seeing any style match photos from game action.
                              Same with their online auction. I don't recall seeing game photos presented with the photos of the item.
                              And there have been a few items presented on this site that have never received any responses, directly or indirectly.

                              As a service to their customers, they should really make sure that faceless Noels like myself aren't purposely trying to drive down the value of one of their auctions, in order to acquire the piece themselves. Could happen.

                              And I believe your written policy was that you weren't going to post on this site anymore, but looky who showed up again. So one may want to assess another's 'policies' based on their actions (or lack thereof) rather than what is or isn't written.
                              Greg
                              DrJStuff.com

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