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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    Quote Originally Posted by both-teams-played-hard
    **I'm just going to take this comment down and we'll pretend it never happened**

    Why was my post removed? This forum is not fun when my comments are censored. NO forum rule was broken or challenged with my comments. I spoke of racism and its effect on major league baseball. Eric, you can ban me, suspend me, and stick bamboo shoots under my fingernails. However, this will not change history. Maybe you should read a book about Jackie Robinson.

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    Don't know the past, don't know the future...


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    Re: Don't know the past, don't know the future...

    Quote Originally Posted by both-teams-played-hard
    Educate your mind!
    Reading is Fundamental:
    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0501/page051501.asp

    "...I am delighted to remind everyone of how many old baseball records deserve to have an asterisk next to them in the record books. It would gently remind us of how long the races were not allowed to compete on the sort of level playing field that Americans of good will still are trying to achieve for our society today. "
    -Clarence Page

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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    So, Babe Ruth's stats should all have asterisks next to them because he only faced white pitchers, right? Oh wait, everyone who player prior to 1948 should have the same issues.

    I don't approve of everything in the past, but then again, a season is a season, a game is a game, so I believe Baseball's theory is simple: Forgive us for the past and let's Play Ball.

    So, I guess the records will stand for those who may or may not have abused steroids - Even if you keep Babe Ruth or Hark Aaron in your heart.

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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    Don't forget Mr. Sadaharu Oh when you mention Maris, Babe, and the Hammer....at 5'9" and 170 lbs. plus change, he hit 868 dingers and certainly deserves some mention.

    Mike

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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    Quote Originally Posted by trsent
    So, Babe Ruth's stats should all have asterisks next to them because he only faced white pitchers, right? Oh wait, everyone who player prior to 1948 should have the same issues.
    All baseball records prior to 1947 cannot be taken seriously. Ty Cobb wouldn't play against black players, simply because he didn't want to get beat. If you beat your sister while playing one-on-one in the driveway, that doesn't mean you are the best basketball player in the neighborhood.

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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    On the stated topic:
    I couldn't afford a Bonds jersey last year, and doubt I'll be able to afford one next year, regardless of what happens to the man himself.
    On the topic we wandered into:
    In 2035, when MLB is 98% Hispanic, will we be arguing (in Spanish, probably) about records set when the sport still let domestic white guys play?
    The only thing I have to say on supplements is that either everybody HAS to take 'em, or nobody GETS to.

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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    If people feel that steroids lead to an unfair, unnatural advantage then can't the same also be said for amphetamines, which have been prevalent in the Majors for the past 30 yrs? Was it fair and natural when Willie Mays showed up at the park supremely alert due to a chemical, while other speed-free players were exhausted and could barely see straight?


    Rudy.

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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    Most of Bonds problem is he has been such a butt his whole career. Almost everyone, fans, media, baseball in general has it in for him because of his attitude. I dont care what color he is, he needs to get over himself. He could have been the best the real way. He deserves whatever comes to him. To this day he still has nothing but smart remarks to say.

    Jason

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    Re: Question for Forum- Bonds Value?

    You would think with Barry Bonds family tree that he is a great player with out the roids,

    Bobby Bonds - Father

    Reggie Jackson - cousin

    Gary Sheffield - cousin

    Willie Mays - God father ( ok well maybe Willie and him are not blood related but dam im sure Willie taught him something ) lol lol

 

 

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