Heritage Lot 710 - 2008 USA Olympic Basketball Team Practice Worn Jerseys Lot of 12, Signed

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Mr. Alpert, the Heritage Auctions item description has been revised. Have you received an email from Heritage? I believe you stated you would post their exact response to you. Here is the updated listing:

"2008 USA Olympic Basketball Team Practice Worn Jerseys Lot of 12, Signed. UPDATE: Additional provenance for this lot will be supplied in the form of a signed letter from a member of the US basketball team attesting to the authenticity of the jerseys, and a photograph of him holding his personal jersey from this lot. Heritage regrets that this provenance will not be available until next week, after the close of the auction, but we guarantee that it is forthcoming, and that the winning bidder will not be held liable for the completion of the sale until the promised provenance is supplied.

A trainer at the Las Vegas practice facilities for the US Olympic basketball team is the source for this incredible collection of worn and autographed shirts from the Team Redeem, which properly reclaimed the Gold Medal for the Americans in Beijing. Each reversible mesh shirt exhibits nice wear, and is signed by the superstar who used it. Included are James, Bryant, Anthony, Wade, Kidd, Bosh, Redd, Williams, Paul, Boozer, Prince and Howard. Tremendous break down value here, though it would be a shame to break up the complete set. An exciting opportunity to connect with the greatest talents in the game today. LOA from James Spence Authentication (autographs). Guide Value or Estimate: $1,500 - up."

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Mr. Alpert, the Heritage Auctions item description has been revised. Have you received an email from Heritage? I believe you stated you would post their exact response to you. Here is the updated listing:

"2008 USA Olympic Basketball Team Practice Worn Jerseys Lot of 12, Signed. UPDATE: Additional provenance for this lot will be supplied in the form of a signed letter from a member of the US basketball team attesting to the authenticity of the jerseys, and a photograph of him holding his personal jersey from this lot. Heritage regrets that this provenance will not be available until next week, after the close of the auction, but we guarantee that it is forthcoming, and that the winning bidder will not be held liable for the completion of the sale until the promised provenance is supplied.

A trainer at the Las Vegas practice facilities for the US Olympic basketball team is the source for this incredible collection of worn and autographed shirts from the Team Redeem, which properly reclaimed the Gold Medal for the Americans in Beijing. Each reversible mesh shirt exhibits nice wear, and is signed by the superstar who used it. Included are James, Bryant, Anthony, Wade, Kidd, Bosh, Redd, Williams, Paul, Boozer, Prince and Howard. Tremendous break down value here, though it would be a shame to break up the complete set. An exciting opportunity to connect with the greatest talents in the game today. LOA from James Spence Authentication (autographs). Guide Value or Estimate: $1,500 - up."

Mr. Jones, I am sorry, I typed up a response before I left for the night last night and when I was editing my reply it was removed and I did not wish to take the time to retype it.

I have emailed Chris Ivy about his response and still find too many questions about the jerseys and the autographs and the various stories you have told (first you are an observer - Then you are a friend of barred GUU user David Archibald - Then you originated the jerseys?) to believe even a picture will make these legitimate.

The whole USA Basketball team came to private practices and jerseys were made for these private practices that they wore? Why wouldn't they just wear their own jerseys? Something doesn't smell right. There is no press about anyone attending these private practices except for DeWayne Wade - Wouldn't the press know if LeBron and Kobe were in Chicago? Those guys can't walk across the street without the press knowing about it.

You keep up with your stories, and I will keep asking questions and maybe next time David Archibald will contact the auction house when I ask for help with an item that my client wishes to bid on and not a silly bunch of replies from David and yourself when the auction house still has no proof.

In the meantime, with the various phone calls I have received about these jerseys in the last twenty four hours - I found one person who knows you and told me that you used to sell me game used Blackhawks sticks around the old Gate 3 1/2 at the old Chicago Stadium back in the early 1990s. Pretty cool if that is a true story about you being one of the kids who used to get sticks after the games.

In the meantime, amazing ever-changing stories about a suspect group of jerseys will not change my mind and a history of suspect autographs of the same players really has me confused.

I will continue to post more once Chris Ivy of Heritage Auctions replies to my latest questions.

[wjonesIII]

Joel, you keep on saying observer. I never said I was an observer. I know David Archibald personally made phone calls to try to get a letter from the trainer. I did say I knew David because he is the owner of the jerseys and owes a small commission once they are sold. That is the financial interest. You have repeated your point of observer, to knowing, to financial interest multiple times. David did email me about this thread. Nowhere did I ever say I was just an observer. I simply contradicted your points.

You keep on attacking us about the truth, and honesty, and integrity, but you still to this point have not honored your word and posted EXACTLY the reply you were sent by Chris Ivy. Is it that hard for you to pick up the phone and call the gym and ask if the players practiced with D-Wade before the Olympics? You are not a man of your word, or you would have posted the response you received from Heritage as you promised.

[wjonesIII]

Why wouldn't they just wear their own jerseys? Something doesn't smell right. There is no press about anyone attending these private practices except for DeWayne Wade - Wouldn't the press know if LeBron and Kobe were in Chicago? Those guys can't walk across the street without the press knowing about it.

What own jerseys? You mean the practice jerseys they were not issued until they got to Las Vegas?

As far as the press, this is another ignorant comment. If your comment about the press is true, please look up on the internet and tell me what city LeBron and Kobe were in every day in the months of June and July? According to your logic, you will be able to look up each individual day and find out exactly what city Kobe and LeBron were doing that day.

By the way, it's Dwyane Wade.

By the way, I think LeBron just walked across a street.....but you already knew that because the press was there right?

[wjonesIII]

I will post any reply I receive from Heritage Auctions here

Instead, you say you will write more once you here more You did not live up to your word, and now you may since i have called you out on it. You are the person who's honesty and integrity is now in question. I believe after all the attacks on Heritage you made, the forum deserves to read their exact response, just as you promised the forum.

[wjonesIII]

Additionally, I am so sick of the suspect autographs comments. JSA is not God. Ask JSA how many LeBron signatures, or Wade signatures, or Kobe signatures that they have personally seen signed in 2008? Just because JSA s unable to authenticate the autographs on the shoes that came directly from those players trainer DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE FAKE! Are you that ignorant that you think every autograph JSA fails is fake?

You can verify with JSA that in 2007 JSA authenticator Larry S. told David Archibald that an Albert Pujols signature on a Men's Fitness magazine was not signed by Albert Pujols. Then in 2008, after more 2007 exemplars were in their library, that exact item was then authenticated by JSA. This is a fact. You can go on and on about the autographs on the shoes being questionable but out of the five pairs of shoes, one of the players is ready to sign a LOA attesting to the use and the authenticity of the signatures on the shoes. He personally remembers giving the shoes to the trainer. So then you would have to say...."well....but the other four JSA did not authenticate." So you would then be saying that the other four are fake? They all were obtained by the same trainer. JSA makes mistakes. They are very careful and very honest authenticators, and they need exemplars, not just a story. You continue to use the shoes against us, but you are wrong.

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