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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    i am third party owner of the nationals guzman and church jerseys
    they came from nationals ....


    you got me there, i thought u were so sure but now you are not.....
    i did checked getty images and guzman did wear size 50 because ryan church worn size 48 and they are much different sizes in pictures
    thanks

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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by mchmaj View Post
    i am third party owner of the nationals guzman and church jerseys
    they came from nationals ....


    you got me there, i thought u were so sure but now you are not.....
    i did checked getty images and guzman did wear size 50 because ryan church worn size 48 and they are much different sizes in pictures
    thanks

    Somebody just forwarded pictures with a note to DON'T BOTHER.

    I looked at the pictures which show your email address and I have to agree.

    There is a wash tag that clearly was removed from the inside seam as you can see the fabric remnants and a new 0062 wash tag has been sewn above the seam.

    Then you have a 2005 year tag with no Set # which was very common on 2005 inaugural Nationals jerseys. We have had discussions about Livan Hernandez 2005 jerseys with Set tags going to Set 6 and possibly higher. In 2006 they did Set 1, Set 2 and Set +. In 2007 and 2008 that just did year tags.

    Also odd is the 2005 year tag was sewn down vertically. I know that there were some clubhouse alterations made to shorten some Set 1 jerseys like Jose Guillen's and they horizontally sewed across the Year/Set tag.

    The Majestic tag may have been altered but why BOTHER since there are so many other red flags.

    Now I can guess why you didn't POST PHOTOS in the first place.
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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    you the one who i sent an email of the pictures ???
    why are you making this in PUBLIC ???
    why cannot u email me these information personally ?
    this nationals guzman jersey is LEGIT , and nationals has the 2005 tagging like my guzman and you know that theres common practice for some MLB teams to remove 6200 then added 0062 tagging inside
    i can post pictures here i got nothing to hide
    nice going !
    marcus

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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    heres pictures and i need help if this jersey is LEGIT
    i noticed that you are saying this jersey is common for 2005 nationals jerseys , what do u mean ? the store sells all jerseys with tagged 2005 like this ???

    and u said there are other many red flag on this jersey ?
    as you know if there is someone who try make this jersey real, they wuld put 0062 tagging under the cut off tag ...
    the majestic tag is NOT altered, and please do not assume beacuse at first you said "I THOUGHT he worn size 50" so i can see that you are not so sure.
    i am a honest guy here and i am not trying to fool anyone
    thanks
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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    there were discussion on this forum about 0062 tagging sewn on over the seam, and there are red flags on 0062 that has 0503B2 tagged on it ....
    my guzman and church doesnt have that fake "0503B2" numbers code on the 0062 tag
    so hoenstly i think my two nationals jerseys are LEGIT and they are made for extras during 2005 season
    thanks
    marcus

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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by mchmaj View Post
    there were discussion on this forum about 0062 tagging sewn on over the seam, and there are red flags on 0062 that has 0503B2 tagged on it ....
    my guzman and church doesnt have that fake "0503B2" numbers code on the 0062 tag
    so hoenstly i think my two nationals jerseys are LEGIT and they are made for extras during 2005 season
    thanks
    marcus


    I have NEVER seen a year tag sewn on like that. Being that the size is wrong and the 0062 tag is sewn OVER the seam AND the year tag is sewn onto the jersey instead of hanging off; then I have no doubt in my mind that this jersey is not legit.

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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by kylehess10 View Post
    I have NEVER seen a year tag sewn on like that. Being that the size is wrong and the 0062 tag is sewn OVER the seam AND the year tag is sewn onto the jersey instead of hanging off; then I have no doubt in my mind that this jersey is not legit.
    what do u mean size is wrong ?? guzman worn size 50 ...
    now i dont know what to say anymore , seem i was burned but i am not going to give up, i still think the guzman jersey is legit , maybe it was made extras ?? Then why the person that sold me church and guzman jerseys came from nationals ? he did mentioned majestic factory made these extras for the Nationals during 2005 season
    let me know more please
    thanks

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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    What a clown, From the first post I already knew where this was going. Just look at this guys posts, It's game worn...then someone calls him out on it...oops its game issued....then someone calls him out on it...its GARBAGE is what it is. How many times are you gonna try and pull this stunt? Funny thing is, if your called out on something you get offended...what do you think were gonna do here? Let you sell junk to another member?? Do us a favor and keep your post count down.

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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by treasurechest collectibles View Post
    What a clown, From the first post I already knew where this was going. Just look at this guys posts, It's game worn...then someone calls him out on it...oops its game issued....then someone calls him out on it...its GARBAGE is what it is. How many times are you gonna try and pull this stunt? Funny thing is, if your called out on something you get offended...what do you think were gonna do here? Let you sell junk to another member?? Do us a favor and keep your post count down.
    what are you talking about ?? i didnt try to sell it as game worn ! i label it game jersey and its issued
    stop this please u are spreading the negative engery here , i suggest u to back off ! and you are a clown here right now !
    its honest mistake , i dont know much about MLB jerseys and i saw this 2005 tagged i know its real and all
    you guys dont give me a chance
    I MADE A HONEST MISTAKE !!!!!
    thank you all !
    marcus

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    Re: washington nationals GUZMAN 2005 jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by mchmaj View Post
    heres pictures and i need help if this jersey is LEGIT
    i noticed that you are saying this jersey is common for 2005 nationals jerseys , what do u mean ? the store sells all jerseys with tagged 2005 like this ???

    and u said there are other many red flag on this jersey ?
    as you know if there is someone who try make this jersey real, they wuld put 0062 tagging under the cut off tag ...
    the majestic tag is NOT altered, and please do not assume beacuse at first you said "I THOUGHT he worn size 50" so i can see that you are not so sure.
    i am a honest guy here and i am not trying to fool anyone
    thanks
    I saw some additional photos too which included a pic where you can clearly see the remnants of a cutoff wash tag.

    You may be an honest guy, but this jersey has RED FLAGS. Again, I am not saying you altered the jersey in any way but how can you be sure the person you bought it from didn't alter it?

    Where can you show legit jerseys with 0062 tags sewn above the seam?

    By the way, I never said I thought he worn size 50 as I said I thought he wore a Size 48 in 2005 and I was only referring to 2005 and yes, he could have worn multiple sizes so in this case there are other issues vs the size. We could also exactly measure out the size of the jersey to see if it measures exactly to a size 50.
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    Andrew Lang
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