OT:Original What does it mean?

[jetersbatboy]

Yesterday, I purchased a Sadaharu Oh Menko rookie card. The seller listed it as "ORIGINAL" so I took him for his word and purchased it. I quickly emailed a friend, sending him to a link of the card I bought. Only to be emailed back this morning with bad news, the boarders of this card had bin cut off. Now I feel by no means is a card "original" if the boarders have bin cut. Do you guys feel this is "original" with the boarders cut? Do I have argument to return the card or do I just have eat the cost of the card because I didn't do enough research? First card is the one I bought the second is a photo of a original Oh rookie.

[otismalibu]

It is the original card...not a reprint. That why SGC slabbed it as authentic, I would guess. Because it's been cut down, they could not grade it.

You'd never seen this card before the auction? Always best to do homework before the purchase.

[bigtruck260]

I would advise that it depends on the price of altered vs. non-altered.

[mvandor]

Agree, that you need to do your homework. If you don't know how important card edges and trimming are in value determination, you shouldn't be collecting cards, that's a very basic issue.

[ahuff]

I absolutely would call it original. Based on the photo comparisons, it is obvious that the card has been trimmed. But trimming does not make the card a reprint.

[jetersbatboy]

I agree enough homework was not done. But I did do some, most photos I had seen of menko cards did not have boarders so I assumed I was safe.

[jetersbatboy]

If this was a game issued jersey and it was washed a few time to make it look more worn and used. Would you still consider that jersey in it original state or has it bin doctored. The only point I am trying to make should this information of card trimming have bin disclosed.

[Rob L]

It's definitely original, just altered. The seller should have mentioned that it was trimmed though. The SGC - Authentic designation would raise concerns though since they would have given it a grade if it wasn't altered.

[David]

Original and original condition are different things. The card is original (aka authentic, aka genuine) but badly trimmed. Obviously, the trimming lowers the value quite a bit.

[David]

Whichever definition of original is used, the trimming should have been disclosed by the seller. There's no debate about that point.