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  • byergo
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 333

    Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

    Who is on YOUR blacklist of uncollectible steroid players? Wouldn't touch 'em with a 10 foot pole...

    Mine:

    Sosa (corked bat to boot, he's a completely worthless common)
    McGwire
    Canseco
    Pudge
    Bonds
    Palimeiro
    Scheffield
    Bagwell
    Giambi
  • suave1477
    Banned
    • Jan 2006
    • 4266

    #2
    Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

    Byergo I noticed on your list is Sheffield I disagree with you on that and I dont know any of the history on pudge taking roids.

    As far as I know with Sheff, he has only been accused by his cousin Bonds and that was becuz the 2 of them got into a heated argument a few years ago and Sheff wont speak to him anymore so Bonds retaliated by putting Sheffs name into it.

    As far as media portraying Sheff to be not one of the nicest guys, i dont think that puts him in a category of a roid user.

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    • trsent
      Banned
      • Nov 2005
      • 3739

      #3
      Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

      My list:

      The Governor Arnold
      The Champion Hogan
      The Chairman McMahon (See his picture on Muscle & Fitness Magazine?)
      The Father, Son and Ghost
      Santa Clause
      The Easter Bunny
      That Groundhog
      Rosanne

      That is my list, who makes you guys judge and jury to list these guys without definite proof?

      Did Barry Bonds abuse some substance? Maybe, but he hasn't been convicted of it yet. Did OJ do it? A jury of our peers in criminial court said "not guilty".

      Oh yeah, we are better than them, we can look, call them guilty and then hang them in the center of town as if we were in medieval times.

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      • Kid4hof03
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 697

        #4
        Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

        My understanding is that Sheffield admitted to the grand jury of "unknowingly" using steroids.

        SHeff has to be on the list, the thing about him is that he wasn't that collectible before. His Yankee items carry premium because Yankee collectors will pay for it, check out his items from other teams, very cheap.

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        • suave1477
          Banned
          • Jan 2006
          • 4266

          #5
          Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

          Ok i wasnt aware that he 50/50 admitted to unknowingly he took roids. As far as the value of his items, then and now., but that goes for any player who joins the Yankees. Any player who joins the Yankees there items go up to premium values.

          Just to say you were a yankee once makes you an official baseball player, go to california tell some girl you a bat boy from the New York Yankees and chances are your getting some that night lol lol lol

          All in all Sheffs stats have done better with the Yankees if memory serves me correct in 04 he had something like 123 rbi's 36 home runs - hes putting up some of the best numbers of his career.

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          • BULBUS
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 1123

            #6
            Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

            We're not convicting these guys, we're just not collecting their memorabilia because it is obviuos that they cheated and their accomplishments can't be taken seriously. I have already sold Bonds and Giambi items from my collection, and I would never buy anything of the guys on byergo's list. I do have a Sheff bat (had it before all this steroid hype) that I'll probably keep. I like Sheff, and his alleged steroid use isnt as obvious as say Bonds and Giambi. I do like Giambi too (glad to see he has recovered from his steroid withdrawals), but I wont buy anthing of his again. I cant think of anyone to add to that list right now.
            Chris

            NY Giants, NY Yankees, Don Mattingly, Mattingly brand bats (any player)
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            donnie23fan at yahoo.com

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            • astros*bats
              Banned
              • Nov 2005
              • 197

              #7
              Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

              Bagwell is on your list, you gotta be kidding me. Well if anyone has any Bagwell items they want to unload cause he made this list, I will more than happy to take them off your hands.

              -AJ

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              • kellsox
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 904

                #8
                Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                sheff also admitted "not knowingly" taking steroids in an article in SI a year or two ago. It was an article about he and Bonds' friendship(or lack of)

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                • hblakewolf
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1870

                  #9
                  Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                  Being associated with sports dentistry for the last 10 years, I met a dentist at the National Sports Dentistry Show three years ago who liven in Puerto Rico. He has worked on many of the local baseball stars, including Pudge. He told me that Pudge is one of the greatest abusers of steroids, and he expects him to have some serious, serious health issues over the next few years.

                  FYI


                  Howard Wolf
                  hblakewolf@patmedia.net

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                  • Nathan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 380

                    #10
                    Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                    Since Todd Helton was somehow accused last year, can I have any of his stuff at a substantial discount?

                    In all seriousness, no one's convicting anyone here. It's a legitimate question and a legitimate response. I know plenty of people who refuse to collect certain players due to how they are in dealing with fans, among other reasons.
                    Looking for Duane Kuiper home run baseballs

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                    • suave1477
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 4266

                      #11
                      Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                      WELL IF THATS THE CASE!!!

                      If anyone has any Darryl Strawberry stuff send it this way!!

                      Darryl beats them all.

                      These are all things he did
                      Cocaine
                      Alcohol
                      Weed
                      Wife beating
                      Wife cheating
                      Tax Evaison
                      Violating probation
                      Having sex with women in rehab
                      Filing false police reports
                      Sniffing glue*
                      Turpentine*
                      Fertilizer*
                      Beanie babies*

                      *items with the star im kidding about.

                      Remember guys whatever you have of his, sell it to me since hes the worse of the worse and ill even pay the LOWEST dollar to you lol lol

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                      • seven4five20
                        Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 82

                        #12
                        Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                        The Hulkster never used steroids!!! C'mon fellow Hulkimaniacs, back me up on this one!!!

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                        • trsent
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 3739

                          #13
                          Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                          Originally posted by seven4five20
                          The Hulkster never used steroids!!! C'mon fellow Hulkimaniacs, back me up on this one!!!
                          "Oh yeah Brother!"

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                          • MVP
                            Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 92

                            #14
                            Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                            Here is my list:

                            bonds
                            canseco
                            sheffield
                            mcgwire
                            giambi
                            palmeiro
                            klesko
                            caminiti
                            bagwell
                            brady anderson
                            bret boone
                            jose cruz jr.
                            pudge rodriguez
                            juan gonzalez
                            bobby estalella
                            miguel tejada
                            dykstra

                            -Henry

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                            • trsent
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 3739

                              #15
                              Re: Steroids, Collectors Blacklist

                              How can you folks make lists?

                              Who on those lists can you know for sure are guilty.

                              It sort of reminds me of a Jr. Senator from Wisconsin who once labeled many members of the public as members of the communist party.

                              Sorry folks, you should be ASHAMED of yourselves.

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