Nolan Ryan game used Astros rainbow jersey on ebay

[TNTtoys]

All,

Please take a look at this one... Seller states that it is "game worn" and offers up no evidence, especially the tagging (though I can make out a tag on the back of the neck in 1 of the photos -- is this right?). Jersey is autographed only with Ryan's stats.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=015

I have written to the seller with questions and 2 days have gone by without a response (20 bids later).

Any thoughts about this one?

Thanks,
Nick

[David]

The seller has impressive feedback and guarantees the authenticity, which are good signs. eBay sellers who knowingly sell dubious stuff are usually loathe to give an authenticity guarantee.

[buc]

I don't know. But is it logical that Goodman only applied the tagging like you said for the Astros, but for the rest of these, applied the tagging in the collar?
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=37857
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=34826
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=31177
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=28484
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=31534
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=23212
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=23217
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=9346
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=9347

[kingjammy24]

I don't know. But is it logical that Goodman only applied the tagging like you said for the Astros, but for the rest of these, applied the tagging in the collar?
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=37857
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=34826
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=31177
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=28484
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=31534
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=23212
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...ction_ID=23217
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=9346
http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=9347

i don't know a thing about this collar vs. body issue. i haven't even looked into it. for me, the zig-zag stitch said it all. buc, look at every single one of those links you posted and the tags are all straight-stitched. i've never seen a legit goodman (or rawlings or wilson or russell gamer) with a zig-zag stitched mfr tag. i've seen cloth strip tags sewn with a zig-zag but not mfr tags. you can debate the whole collar vs. body issue thing all day but regardless of what conclusion you come to, the mfr tag is sewn incorrectly. let's say, purely for arguments sake, the tag on the ebay ryan is sewn in the correct position. does it even matter? it's sewn on using an incorrect stitch. this is like seeing an orioles jersey with "RIPKAN" on the back and a number 88 and we're all talking about whether or not the size is correct. if the size is incorrect it just makes it even worse but even if the size is correct, it doesn't make it good.

rudy.

[kingjammy24]

re: tag placement

not sure how relevant it is to use other teams jerseys to determine tag placement. in 1991, rawlings held the contracts for most MLB teams. for most teams, rawlings placed the tag on the front tail. however, i remember for the indians that year rawlings placed their tag in the collar.

rudy.

[trsent]

All,

Please take a look at this one... Seller states that it is "game worn" and offers up no evidence, especially the tagging (though I can make out a tag on the back of the neck in 1 of the photos -- is this right?). Jersey is autographed only with Ryan's stats.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=015

I have written to the seller with questions and 2 days have gone by without a response (20 bids later).

Any thoughts about this one?

Thanks,
Nick

Nick, I emailed the seller and they replied this morning that they have added a picture of the tag to the listing.



They didn't answer my question how they know the jersey is game used.

[TNTtoys]

Thanks Joel. I saw that too.

I have 2 Astros jerseys of this era; a home white and a road cream; both tagged by Goodman & Sons. The tagging is on the bottom front of the jersey, not in the collar... so my question is did Goodman & Sons tag the rainbow alternates differently than their other jerseys? Doesn't seem to make much sense that they would do this. I remember Rawlings used to tag the retail authentic jerseys in the collar whereas they tagged the game jerseys on the front. Anyway, anyone with more info out there, please chime in...

[DoctorLoomis]

Here is one of the finest Ryan gamers Ive seen in auction. The tag is in the NECK.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=9971

[kingjammy24]

Here is one of the finest Ryan gamers Ive seen in auction. The tag is in the NECK.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=9971

affixed via the standard straight stitch. i keep looking at the ebay jersey and it really looks like a zig-zag stitch and i've never seen a goodman (or rawlings or russell or wilson tag applied with such a stitch).

rudy.

[suave1477]

Here is one of the finest Ryan gamers Ive seen in auction. The tag is in the NECK.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/A...uction_ID=9971

Mikesharon so your saying this was another fake Jersey? Am I correct???

Makes me wonder DoctorLoomis what makes you feel this is such a great example????