OT - Sports Paintings & Illustrations

[TNTtoys]

thanks.

i own a couple of lithographs. are these reprints too? what is the next best thing next to an original art work? what kind of reprints is considered to be collectible?

Unfortunately my knowledge in this area is extremely limited. I didn't want to ignore your question but I just don't have a good answer for you. There are a number of collectors & dealers here who should be able to chime in.

[karamaxjoe]

Thanks for pimping me and my work out, Todd!! If anyone wants anymore information on me or my artwork, feel free to PM me, or check out my website at http://www.graigkreindler.com.

Joel, in regards to having the second best thing next to an original, a really high end archival giclee is a good bet. If done correctly and professionally, these are made with sprayed archival inks onto acid-free surfaces (watercolor paper, canvas, etc.), and if properly treated and displayed should last at least 75 years. When buying any of these, one should certainly do their homework and get as much information from the artist or dealer as possible.

In terms of collectibility, I guess it all depends on what you're looking at. There's always interest in lithos and giclees that are autographed by the artists and/or players, though from what I've seen in the auction circles, they don't necessarily garner a heck of a lot of money unless they're attached to a name like Leroy Neiman (or a deceased player).

To be perfectly honest, if you're mostly interested in an investment (and a long-term one at that), originals are the way to go. In the end, the hobby won't be the place to reap the benefits of that kind of purchase, as the art piece will undoubtedly be more about the player than the artist. And, in that forum, it's hard to have artwork compete with game-used equipment and the like in terms of price. However, in the art buying world, it becomes more about the artist than the player. And believe me, those pieces can rise in price to some of the most hallowed Ruth and Gehrig gamers out there.

In the end, I think if you're interested in art, it always helps to just figure out what you like aesthetically - what hits you on a gut level. That ALWAYS makes the investment worth it.

Graig

Graig,
I've always admired your paintings on the net54 website. One day when I'm a rich man, I'm going to ask for this photo of Joe Jackson to be painted. I bet this would come out great with that steely stare from Shoeless Joe.

[joelsabi]

Thanks for pimping me and my work out, Todd!! If anyone wants anymore information on me or my artwork, feel free to PM me, or check out my website at http://www.graigkreindler.com.

Joel, in regards to having the second best thing next to an original, a really high end archival giclee is a good bet. If done correctly and professionally, these are made with sprayed archival inks onto acid-free surfaces (watercolor paper, canvas, etc.), and if properly treated and displayed should last at least 75 years. When buying any of these, one should certainly do their homework and get as much information from the artist or dealer as possible.

In terms of collectibility, I guess it all depends on what you're looking at. There's always interest in lithos and giclees that are autographed by the artists and/or players, though from what I've seen in the auction circles, they don't necessarily garner a heck of a lot of money unless they're attached to a name like Leroy Neiman (or a deceased player).

To be perfectly honest, if you're mostly interested in an investment (and a long-term one at that), originals are the way to go. In the end, the hobby won't be the place to reap the benefits of that kind of purchase, as the art piece will undoubtedly be more about the player than the artist. And, in that forum, it's hard to have artwork compete with game-used equipment and the like in terms of price. However, in the art buying world, it becomes more about the artist than the player. And believe me, those pieces can rise in price to some of the most hallowed Ruth and Gehrig gamers out there.

In the end, I think if you're interested in art, it always helps to just figure out what you like aesthetically - what hits you on a gut level. That ALWAYS makes the investment worth it.

Graig

Graig,

thanks for the breakdown, it would be cool to get something commissioned by you if it is affordable. you do great work.

Regards

Joel

[joelsabi]

Unfortunately my knowledge in this area is extremely limited. I didn't want to ignore your question but I just don't have a good answer for you. There are a number of collectors & dealers here who should be able to chime in.

not a problem.

graig had a great response. i think it whatever is aesthetically pleasing to me that counts.

[Gkreindler]

Thanks for the compliments, guys!

Karamaxjoe, that shot of Shoeless is absolutely timeless. I tell ya, he had a gaze like no other. It's certainly on my long list of stuff to do...

Joel, I hope that my post wasn't too much of a diatribe. If you decide that you would ever like to set something up, feel free to contact me!

Graig

[barry-debi]

Cool Thread, Joe Jackson by Arthur Miller.

[suave1477]

I own this one it's a lithograph on canvas I believe it's something like 36 x 24 numbered #1 / 18 - I also own the same lithograph on acid free paper a misprint. The canvas one I have autographed by Straw)

[suave1477]

The difference between a Giclee and Lithograph.

Giclee is usually a reproduction of an original through a very expensive ink jet printing process.

Lithorgraph is usually a reproduction of the original through a plate process.

Usually now there will be a limited amount made in either case just like the baseball cards for example 1 - 100 / 1 - 20 / 1- 500.
When these limited numbers are made they are usually a slight variation the artist himself will do, which he might make limited numbers of - Example - they usually touch up each Giclee/Lithograph by painting them by hand - they may add an extra color in and numbr them.

[frikativ54]

I own this one it's a lithograph on canvas I believe it's something like 36 x 24 numbered #1 / 18 - I also own the same lithograph on acid free paper a misprint. The canvas one I have autographed by Straw)

That's really neat. Who was the artist? I would be interested in contacting him/her.

[Jays1fan]

I have these 1/1 Topps & Stadium Club Vernon Wells "Sketch Cards"