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    Senior Member kingjammy24's Avatar
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    Re: O/T - MLB says steroids against the rules since 1991

    Joel, you're always a source of comedy. At any rate, you're correct, they weren't enforced. Blame that on whatever. As of 1991 though, MLB teams were informed that steroids were formally and explicitly "against the rules".

    In regards to Bud's reponse to the letter:

    1. If the letter was irrelevant, why did Selig reissue it in 1997?

    2. Having had some experience in this milieu, I'll say that collective bargaining agreements typically don't include obvious illegalities. It's a ludicrous notion because you'd just end up including the entire US federal legal system in the bargaining agreement. The bargaining agreement may specify things like the MLB disciplinary measures when a player is caught, preventative measures that the union and league will take, the effect of an infraction on player salary, etc. You wouldn't need to include the general notion that illegal drugs are prohibited. It's assumed by all parties that illegal activities are prohibited because all MLB rules are assumed to abide by federal law. That is, if federal law prohibits something then it's assumed the MLB prohibits it as well. To think otherwise would mean MLB rules could circumvent federal law which everyone knows they cannot. Thus there's no way that steroids could have possibly been allowed even if it wasn't specified in the CBA. It had to have been assumed. You don't need to include every single federal illegality in the CBA.

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    Re: O/T - MLB says steroids against the rules since 1991

    Who are you to tell me I can't keep my views?

    I decided while driving across the county for four days I was no longer going to debate topics such as drug use and race relations on this forum anymore.

    All of you right wing belivers can keep your thoughts among yourselves.

    Then again, I love the views that it is not ok to use a drug that may help you hit a baseball furthur, but nothing should be done for those who ever used cocaine or weed or anything else because it didn't make a diffrence in their play. Oh good Lord, that is a funny thought.

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    Re: O/T - MLB says steroids against the rules since 1991

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    Who are you to tell me I can't keep my views?

    I decided while driving across the county for four days I was no longer going to debate topics such as drug use and race relations on this forum anymore.

    All of you right wing belivers can keep your thoughts among yourselves.

    Then again, I love the views that it is not ok to use a drug that may help you hit a baseball furthur, but nothing should be done for those who ever used cocaine or weed or anything else because it didn't make a diffrence in their play. Oh good Lord, that is a funny thought.
    Ron White once said, "I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."

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    Re: O/T - MLB says steroids against the rules since 1991

    Well, I was wondering would Trsent would come to the steroids users rescue. Your worse than selig. Turn a blind eye to everything brother.
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    Re: O/T - MLB says steroids against the rules since 1991

    So instead, you'll turn it into a political debate that begins with name calling. Classic. Those darn right-wingers. Let's face it, personal accountability isn't for everyone.

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    Are you really ready if they dig really deep?

    I bet if MLB and whatever investigation committee starts digging really deep you will see a big pile of doo doo hit the fan. Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa helped bring baseball back to some of the glory it once had. It's funny the media portrays Bonds as the bad guy because he is chasing the HR record. I am sick of hearing about all the big hitters and the questions that surround them. Are the pitchers untouchable? What bothers me are the coaches and former players who never said a damn thing or stepped up brought this to light in its infancy. Say what you will, but if baseball really digs you better believe Barry and the big hitters won't be the only ones going down.

 

 

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