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  • flaco1801
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 590

    #31
    Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

    ill never forget when i saw lenny dykstra in a spring trianing game. they said he gained some weight, heck he didnt even look the same. that was my first exposure, tho i didnt know it at the time

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    • suicide_squeeze
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1442

      #32
      Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

      Originally posted by thomecollector
      I doubt that Thome would be on the list . He has been a big boy for most
      of his life. His whole family is a group of big guys. His old man is a softball legend in Illinois. Besides, His dad would kick his @$$.........
      thomecollector,

      Do I ever hope you are right. I have ALWAYS liked Jim Thome.

      And the same goes for Frank Thomas. I sincerely hope he's a clean guy, because he's always been a monster of a man too, so maybe it's just a genetic thing there too.

      But after the Rodriguez debacle......NOTHING would surprise me.

      What would really be the final screw in my believing coffin would be to find out that Ken Griffey Jr.'s name was on the list. That would sinch the deal for me to start liquadating my entire "current day" collection. He has always been one of the top greats in the history of the game, a tremendous 5-tool player with the likes of Mays.

      PLEASE Griffey.......don't be on that list!!!

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      • tmpjets
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 290

        #33
        Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

        As for Mariners fans let us just pray that Arod only used in Texas and this dosen't come back to Seattle to haunt us. The last thing I would want is my childhood stars get put on the list too; I mean come on Griffey,Edgar,Randy , and Buhner. Dear GOD MAN THE MADNESS!!!!!

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        • suave1477
          Banned
          • Jan 2006
          • 4266

          #34
          Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

          i Surprised All Of You Left Out 2 Major Players

          Josh Hamilton Home Run Derby 28 Home Runs In The First Round
          And Lets Not Forget The First Half Of His 2008 Season Which Was Crazy Till He Wore Out His Juice At The All Star Game

          David Big Papi Ortiz - Does Practically Nothing For 6 Years With The Twins Joins Boston

          Heres His Total Of Home Runs In 6 Years With The
          Twins 48 Total In 6 Years

          Boston
          31
          41
          47
          54
          35
          23

          seems A Bit Fishy To Me Lol Lol:d

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          • dirtyla2000
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 269

            #35
            Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

            anyone, but VLADDY!

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            • WadeInBmore
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 590

              #36
              Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

              This entire steriod shake down has got me in disbelief as a fan and former player alike. I remember 5-6 years ago when all this first started coming out I went to the Orioles game with a sign that said..."et tu baseball?"

              I was so hurt. And then the Mitchell report comes out and lists something like 20 some current and former Orioles!!!!

              I have always been a Thomas fan, he was my idol when I was growing up...thats why I started to collect him. He's been speaking out about steriod testing since the mid 90's, was the only player that was interviewed in the Mitchell Report, and after he hit his 500th homerun...said "I hit 500 the right way."

              I hope that he is clean. He has always been huge, his gut has gotten a bit bigger over the years but then again who's hasn't? When that list is finally released it's going to be another very trying day for baseball.

              It also makes me laugh a bit at the "message" that everyone wants to put out there now. Say Thomas is clean...he's done it the right way...yet he is still a free agent, 18 year vet with over 500 homeruns...all the while the "cheaters" are rewarded with monsterous contracts.

              We should all start taking a pool...$5 entrance fee...pick your team and the number of players from that team that will appear on the new list. Like so many on this forum have already said...this is only the beginning.

              wade

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              • mr.miracle
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 883

                #37
                Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                Originally posted by WadeInBmore
                This entire steriod shake down has got me in disbelief as a fan and former player alike. I remember 5-6 years ago when all this first started coming out I went to the Orioles game with a sign that said..."et tu baseball?"

                I was so hurt. And then the Mitchell report comes out and lists something like 20 some current and former Orioles!!!!

                I have always been a Thomas fan, he was my idol when I was growing up...thats why I started to collect him. He's been speaking out about steriod testing since the mid 90's, was the only player that was interviewed in the Mitchell Report, and after he hit his 500th homerun...said "I hit 500 the right way."

                I hope that he is clean. He has always been huge, his gut has gotten a bit bigger over the years but then again who's hasn't? When that list is finally released it's going to be another very trying day for baseball.

                It also makes me laugh a bit at the "message" that everyone wants to put out there now. Say Thomas is clean...he's done it the right way...yet he is still a free agent, 18 year vet with over 500 homeruns...all the while the "cheaters" are rewarded with monsterous contracts.

                We should all start taking a pool...$5 entrance fee...pick your team and the number of players from that team that will appear on the new list. Like so many on this forum have already said...this is only the beginning.

                wade
                The sad thing is Wade as a lifelong Orioles fan, all those Orioles were in the Mitchell report and what good did it do? The team has sucked for 15 plus years. If all those guys were on the juice, you can only imagine how bad they would have been if they had not been.
                I continue to be disgusted by just how badly the wheels have come off the cart in Baltimore. The team that was the class of baseball in the 60's and 70's can't field a winning team to save themselves. It is really a sad testament to what MLB has become in this day and age.
                Brett Herman

                brettherman2131@hotmail.com

                Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.

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                • Stefano61
                  Member
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 67

                  #38
                  Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                  I really doubt Piazza ever used steroids, he was a big guy and a proven hr hitter even in the early 90's...in 1996, when teammate Brady Anderson hit 50 homers, Cal Ripken hit 26, the only time in his last 8 seasons in which he topped 20 homers...

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                  • eisenreich8
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 433

                    #39
                    Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                    A local and knowing source dropped me the name Trot Nixon.

                    I also would add Carl Everett.

                    I personally do not think Varitek would be on the list. I think he takes his God-given abilities too seriously, which are eroding quickly nonetheless.

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                    • skyking26
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2457

                      #40
                      Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                      Originally posted by mr.miracle
                      The sad thing is Wade as a lifelong Orioles fan, all those Orioles were in the Mitchell report and what good did it do? The team has sucked for 15 plus years. If all those guys were on the juice, you can only imagine how bad they would have been if they had not been.
                      I continue to be disgusted by just how badly the wheels have come off the cart in Baltimore. The team that was the class of baseball in the 60's and 70's can't field a winning team to save themselves. It is really a sad testament to what MLB has become in this day and age.
                      Don't feel to bad Brett. Have you not taken a look at the Detroit Tigers? Biggest embarassment in MLB. 2nd highest payroll behind NY in 08 and last place. That says it all.
                      ROBERT KOPPEL
                      Skyking26 - 35 year collector of Dave Kingman memorabilia. Also seek 500 HR and 3000 Hit GU Bats,
                      and 1968, 1984, HOF Tigers GU Bats...Skyking442@hotmail.com

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                      • suicide_squeeze
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1442

                        #41
                        Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                        Originally posted by eisenreich8
                        A local and knowing source dropped me the name Trot Nixon.

                        I also would add Carl Everett.

                        I personally do not think Varitek would be on the list. I think he takes his God-given abilities too seriously, which are eroding quickly nonetheless.
                        He may not be on THAT particular list.......but as an ex catcher, I'm telling you.......Tek was on the juice BIG-TIME.

                        Go back and look at the "Getty Images" pictures of him in 2002, 2003, 2004.....He was built like a TANK, and his legs were from another world. You don't develope legs like that from squatting behind a plate for years. You develope those kinds of legs by pushing around 1,250 pounds on leg press machines, backed by "quick recovery" so you can catch the next day.

                        Unless he was training in the off-season (to be the next Eric Heiden) on skates......he was "needle"ing his butt often and heavy.

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                        • suicide_squeeze
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1442

                          #42
                          Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                          Originally posted by Stefano61
                          I really doubt Piazza ever used steroids, he was a big guy and a proven hr hitter even in the early 90's...in 1996, when teammate Brady Anderson hit 50 homers, Cal Ripken hit 26, the only time in his last 8 seasons in which he topped 20 homers...
                          I'm just gonna let the pics do the talking........and by the way, I'm a HUGE Dodger fan........but Mike Piazza.......well, just look........
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                          • eisenreich8
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 433

                            #43
                            Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                            re: Varitek, I'll certainly take your word for it. I'm not qualified to dispute your info. He is an overly solid figure.

                            Piazza's before/after is mind-boggling. I looked like him in the first pic. Nothing short of PED's would change that in a mortal fan.

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                            • mbenga28
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 555

                              #44
                              Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                              Paul O'Neill and Tino Martinez from the Yankees.

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                              • cjclong
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 936

                                #45
                                Re: 103 not named that tested positive for steroids...

                                What is the point to this. People are pointing fingers at players who may be totally innocent. How many of you would want people saying you may have done something wrong, pick your crime of choice, with no proof. All of you would be outraged. Because of the wide usage we now know about unfortunately there will be suspicion about everyone but why point fingers and accuse people who may be totally innocent. An excellent example is Josh Hamilton. He came into major league baseball two years ago when testing was in place. In addition to the testing done to regular players he was being tested EVERY WEEK because of his prior use of cocaine, etc which he admitted to. Before he got clean he was on the road to death getting down to 180 pounds at his 6'4 height. He admits he is still an addict and last year never carried more than $10 when he was on the road so he would not be tempted. Unlike most of the PED drug users he has written a book about his drug usage and speaks to young people to try to keep them from using. Because of how he abused himself with illegal drugs for several years he is still in a rehabilitative process and wore down at the end of last year. Most players were amazed he was able to do what he did given his years of drug abuse and time out of the game. Of all the people in baseball he is one you should not unfairly accuse , with zero prooof and no reasobable suspicion I might add.

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