Wood bats VS. Aluminum

[frikativ54]

Re: Wood bats VS. Aluminum

The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain.

Seven silver swans swam silently seaward.

What do rhymes and alliterations have to do with anything?

[xpress34]

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Once is too much. I don't have the time to pull out a bunch of articles, but I remember hearing a bunch of incidents in the past with people getting hurt by flying splinters of wood. I know there are efforts to address this, but I would really like to know how this is going to be eliminated.

Les -

I'm 45 and I LOVE the game and the TRADITION. I don't want to see MLB do what the NHL did and put NETS all the way down the baselines because people are affraid of Foul Balls and Broken Bats. That's why EVERY Major League ticket states (and I quote from the back of my Rox Opening Day ticket for 2009):

"Holder of this ticket assumes all risks and dangers of personal injury and other hazards arising from, or related to, the event for which the ticket is issued, whether occurring prior to, during or after the event/performance, including but not limited to flying objects or other hazards related to the event/performance."

As far as 'efforts to eliminate this'? I can't say I ever seen a Major Leaguer hurt by a broken bat - other than Tulo slamming his bat down last year and gashing his hand open when it split in half in his hand.

As far as the fans in the stands - if you aren't able - or don't want to pay attention to the action on the field, then you shouldn't sit so close... like the guys I see at every Rox game with the newspaper up in front of their face while the game is going on - sitting in the front row! Those are the guys who need to be hit by a foul ball ripping through their papers! If you don't want to pay attention to the game, go home or go back to work!

I have been struck by line drives while pitching in non-competitive softball, and I do know that it hurts. But perhaps I am not in a position to comment having not played college baseball or softball (career cut short - a story for another day).

Getting hit by a Line Drive with a Softball and a Line Drive with a baseball are two totally different things... you are comparing Apples to Oranges here.

Just my .02

- Chris

[Vintagedeputy]

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The chair is against the wall

John has a long mustache

[suicide_squeeze]

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So - maybe I'm not experienced with aluminum vs. wood. But I don't understand a LOT about a LOT of different things. Care to clarify here or in email?

Frik.......

All I am saying is you seem to take up arguments here...........to argue. They are not based on what......well, to be frank, everyone already knows by common sense.

Please, I am not trying to belittle you, or pick on you in any way. It's just obvious that your arguments are generally baseless. They start out as opinions, and quickly turninto full-fledge arguments.

Like your last comment rant about BigTruck and the "sexist" stuff. Look, if you can't figure out that females can't play MLB and be GOOD enough to make it......then NONE of us here can help you.

It's a genetic thing, Frik. Women can't perform the strength requirements to become a pro baseball player......Hell, Frik, MOST MEN can't do it. It's NOT just about talent....it's a genetic thing.

So if you want to tangle up "women in baseball" with "Aluminum bats", you're already going down down the wrong path. WHY? Because you have eliminated the most overwhelming PART of the equation to MAKE an argument based on common sense.......the "strength" factor.

Am I making sense to you? I hope so. Peace.....I want you to know you are as welcome to state your opinions as anyone.....but just try to be a little more fully equipped in substance when you take a stand, because it becomes a bit exasperating to try to get you to see the other side, when sometimes it's just so obvious.

[chakes89]

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Aluminum is far too dangerous for professional baseball

As far as the "they use it in college" argument, how many guys built like Albert Pujols, David Ortz and Adam Dunn do you see playing college baseball?

Comparing college players to professionals is like comparing Apples to Oranges

Comparing College Baseball to MILB/MLB is just absurd

[Vintagedeputy]

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Les -


As far as 'efforts to eliminate this'? I can't say I ever seen a Major Leaguer hurt by a broken bat - other than Tulo slamming his bat down last year and gashing his hand open when it split in half in his hand.


- Chris

There was a coach I believe that got a hunk of bat into his leg after it shattered. These instances are super rare though. The damage that would be inflicted by a flying aluminum bat is something that I dont want to witness.

[frikativ54]

Re: Wood bats VS. Aluminum

The chair is against the wall

John has a long mustache

Doesn't negate the veracity of anything I've already said.

[chakes89]

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There was a coach I believe that got a hunk of bat into his leg after it shattered. These instances are super rare though. The damage that would be inflicted by a flying aluminum bat is something that I dont want to witness.

Especially those crap Two-Piece Aluminum bats

[suicide_squeeze]

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xpress34......

In the 70's, Steve Yeager, while catching for the Dodgers had a broken splintered bat spear him in the neck, missing his jugular by......1/8"

That brought about the development of the piece that he wore that "hung down" from the bottom of the face mask, which was designed to protect the neck.


WAIT.......I mean it was an ALUMINUM bat that splintered!!!

[mariner_gamers]

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The chair is against the wall

John has a long mustache

WOLVERINES!!!!!!

[Vintagedeputy]

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WOLVERINES!!!!!!

We have a winner! One of my favorite movies...

[chakes89]

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This thread would have a good discussion topic had someone not ruined it with their nonsense

I do believe a banning is in order

[chakes89]

Re: Wood bats VS. Aluminum

This thread would have been a good discussion topic had someone not ruined it with their nonsense

I do believe a banning is in order

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[mariner_gamers]

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We have a winner! One of my favorite movies...

Me too!!!

[xpress34]

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So - maybe I'm not experienced with aluminum vs. wood. But I don't understand a LOT about a LOT of different things. Care to clarify here or in email?

the main thing with aluminum bats is the 'Trampoline Effect' as someone said earlier. Technically speaking, Aluminum bats are 'Tubes'. That is they are hollow inside - not solid like a wooden bat.

That 'hollow' core is what allows an aluminum bat to compress and expand - hence the 'trampoline effect' when it makes contact with a ball.

A wooden bat being solid, it doesn't compress and expand - if the wood is soft, it may compress, but it will not expand.

That expansion is what adds the extra velocity to the ball when it comes off the bat - particularly a softball.

As Newton's 3rd Law of Physics states - "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

That said, a pitcher throws a ball to Batter A with a wood bat - the simply physics are the BALL (not the bat) compresses and expands at the moment of impact sending the ball the opposite direction from which it came with almost the same velocity at which it came in.

Pitcher throws a ball to Batter B with an aluminum bat - BOTH the BALL and the BAT Compress and expand exerting an EXTRA force on the ball when it goes back the opposite direction therefore INCREASING the Velocity above what it was when it was coming to the plate.

I hope that makes more sense to you.

And - as a traditionalist, if you let the Pros use Aluminum, I can say here without the slightest doubt that you would have to expand the outfield at EVERY MLB park because the HR #'s would be INSANE - and therefore destroy the sanctity of the Record Books even more than Roids have already done.

- Chris