Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

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  • NFLJerseyCollector
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 21

    #31
    Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

    Hunt Auction won't deny any item for consignment, Its strictly revenue for them (they'll take just about anything).

    Grey Flannel on the other hand, will never except a jersey like that for consignment.

    That's why the owner of that jersey have it up on Ebay.

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    Originally posted by mvandor
    I can only ask this.

    Has ANY board member EVER seen a WR game used jersey tagged 'L' in the collar - denoting a lineman's jersey?

    Please also remember TO has been one of the most visible, highly photographed players during his NFL tenure. Don't you think there'd be a pic on Getty SOMEWHERE showing him with these stock pro-cut shortened sleeves?
    mvandor=It clearly tells me that you don't know Jack about jersey after what you just say.

    So what you acquire a Antonio Gates jersey for $600 and other jersey before from NFL Auction, Which you over bid for.

    That doesn't make you an Expert or anywhere close to it.

    Your probably one of those people, that takes an NFL Auction Authentic jersey and turn it around and sell it as Game Issued Jersey on Ebay or have your buddy do it for you.


    About about these photo, from www.Josportsco.com

    Do you see the "L" after the 04-44 tagging, For sure your not there yet.

    Dr.Loomis, Please educate them, and forget about catching the Boogie-man.
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    • mvandor
      Banned
      • Apr 2007
      • 1032

      #32
      Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

      Originally posted by NFLJerseyCollector
      Hunt Auction won't deny any item for consignment, Its strictly revenue for them (they'll take just about anything).

      Grey Flannel on the other hand, will never except a jersey like that for consignment.

      That's why the owner of that jersey have it up on Ebay.

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      mvandor=It clearly tells me that you don't know Jack about jersey after what you just say.

      So what you acquire a Antonio Gates jersey for $600 and other jersey before from NFL Auction, Which you over bid for.

      That doesn't make you an Expert or anywhere close to it.

      Your probably one of those people, that takes an NFL Auction Authentic jersey and turn it around and sell it as Game Issued Jersey on Ebay or have your buddy do it for you.


      About about these photo, from www.Josportsco.com

      Do you see the "L" after the 04-44 tagging, For sure your not there yet.

      Dr.Loomis, Please educate them, and forget about catching the Boogie-man.
      Clearly you have yet to master the english language as well as rudimentary people skills.

      Do you care to give us YOUR opinion on the T.O. jersey? What do the letters next to the size tag on game jerseys mean to you? Regarding your Grey Flannel comments, have you read any of the recent threads here re: Grey Flannel?

      Then you can educate me on what the amount I pay for items from NFL Auctions has to do with this jersey or where you get off accusing me of converrting my acquisitions into fraudulent game used items?

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      • NFLJerseyCollector
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 21

        #33
        Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

        Originally posted by mvandor
        Clearly you have yet to master the english language as well as rudimentary people skills.

        Do you care to give us YOUR opinion on the T.O. jersey? What do the letters next to the size tag on game jerseys mean to you? Regarding your Grey Flannel comments, have you read any of the recent threads here re: Grey Flannel?

        Then you can educate me on what the amount I pay for items from NFL Auctions has to do with this jersey or where you get off accusing me of converrting my acquisitions into fraudulent game used items?
        If jersey is what you want to talk about, why drag the english stuff with it.
        Your english can use some correction too.

        Their are 5 different letter that can go after the year and size tagging,
        • "Q"=Quarterback, usually meaning open Sleeve for QB
        • "S"=Specialty, most receivers, corners and safeties in the NFL prefer this cut, short sleeves
        • "L"=Linebacker, and not linemen. Different team have different cut for linebackers. Very short to NO sleeve at all depending on the team.
        • "O"=Offensive linemen. Both Offensive and Defensive Linemen have no Sleeve on their jersey, if the linemen lift their arms up you could see their armpit
        • "D"=Defensive Linemen. between the two is spacing.


        That T.O. jersey has a "L" with the Tagging and Sleeves tailor like a Eagles Linebackers.
        Look on Gettys and you'll see T.O. wears nothing but "S" cut with the Eagles, then look up someone like Jeremiah Trotter with his Sleeves.

        That jersey was originally a linebacker jersey, had the name and Numbers strip off, and owens name and number put on.

        Next time do your research, study and know your facts before posting something that you have very little knowledge of.

        You can question me about Basketball jersey and stuff, or even Baseball Stuff.
        Thats fine with me, cuz i don't know Jack about basketball and baseball stuff, and you won't catch me posting anything about basketball or baseball.

        NFL Jersey is what i'm good at.

        And for Dr.Loomis he Probably has a friend that work for Ripon and knows the secret stuff, who knows.

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        • NFLJerseyCollector
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 21

          #34
          Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

          Then Again, that jersey could be one of those NFL Auction Jersey.

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          • mvandor
            Banned
            • Apr 2007
            • 1032

            #35
            Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

            Originally posted by NFLJerseyCollector
            If jersey is what you want to talk about, why drag the english stuff with it.
            Your english can use some correction too.

            Their are 5 different letter that can go after the year and size tagging,
            • "Q"=Quarterback, usually meaning open Sleeve for QB
            • "S"=Specialty, most receivers, corners and safeties in the NFL prefer this cut, short sleeves
            • "L"=Linebacker, and not linemen. Different team have different cut for linebackers. Very short to NO sleeve at all depending on the team.
            • "O"=Offensive linemen. Both Offensive and Defensive Linemen have no Sleeve on their jersey, if the linemen lift their arms up you could see their armpit
            • "D"=Defensive Linemen. between the two is spacing.

            That T.O. jersey has a "L" with the Tagging and Sleeves tailor like a Eagles Linebackers.
            Look on Gettys and you'll see T.O. wears nothing but "S" cut with the Eagles, then look up someone like Jeremiah Trotter with his Sleeves.

            That jersey was originally a linebacker jersey, had the name and Numbers strip off, and owens name and number put on.

            Next time do your research, study and know your facts before posting something that you have very little knowledge of.

            You can question me about Basketball jersey and stuff, or even Baseball Stuff.
            Thats fine with me, cuz i don't know Jack about basketball and baseball stuff, and you won't catch me posting anything about basketball or baseball.

            NFL Jersey is what i'm good at.

            And for Dr.Loomis he Probably has a friend that work for Ripon and knows the secret stuff, who knows.
            Perhaps I can tap your unlimited expertise then. Why would a Bengals WR wear a Linebacker cut jersey? And exactly why all the pomposity - I don't believe we've ever crossed paths before so what's with the arrogance and off putting approach?

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            • NFLJerseyCollector
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 21

              #36
              Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

              Originally posted by mvandor
              Perhaps I can tap your unlimited expertise then. Why would a Bengals WR wear a Linebacker cut jersey? And exactly why all the pomposity - I don't believe we've ever crossed paths before so what's with the arrogance and off putting approach?
              Why would a Bengals WR wear a Linebacker cut jersey, Let me See.

              All Players have different preference, some player find it more comfortable than the "S" cut version.

              If anyone wore a actual football game jersey, it would feel funny and weird.

              The Jersey they wear on the Field was design, cut and sewn to accommodate shoulder pads.

              With the Linemen cut jersey linemen have a better free motion movement with their arms, they're sleeve less so they don't irritate the players skin around the armpit as with "S" Cut jersey would.

              With linebacker cut jersey (like the eagles one)their sleeves stop right on the armpit.

              Here's the answer incase you ask this Question, "why don't receivers or QB wear Linemen cut jersey then.

              If receivers wear Linemen cut with open sleeve, What would you think would happen when a receiver makes a catch like Santonio Holmes did on the SuperBowl or a QB takes a spill.

              They would end up more than just grass and paint stain on their armpit (it would be all over their inside of the jersey between the players and shoulder pads meets", and that will cause irritation.

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              • jbcindc
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 61

                #37
                Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                Originally posted by mvandor
                I can only ask this.

                Has ANY board member EVER seen a WR game used jersey tagged 'L' in the collar - denoting a lineman's jersey?

                Please also remember TO has been one of the most visible, highly photographed players during his NFL tenure. Don't you think there'd be a pic on Getty SOMEWHERE showing him with these stock pro-cut shortened sleeves?

                I checked the 14 game worn wide receiver jerseys I own and none of them had an "L" cut. Some of them had nothing beyond the year and size, but any that had a style cut had an "S."

                I mostly collect Chargers jerseys and even the Igor Olshansky 2008-9 Chargers game worn jersey for which I overpaid on NFL Auctions has an "S" cut. As do the game worn jerseys of Linebackers Jyles Tucker, Stephen Cooper, Donnie Edwards and Shawne Merriman. Every Chargers Defensive Back jersey I own is an "S" cut. I suppose player preference plays a role in the jersey style and therefore a WR could conceivably have an "L" cut jersey. I've just never seen it prior to this thread.

                I've been burned a couple of times on fake jerseys, and I've benefited from the expertise of people participating in this Forum who have offered valuable advice on jerseys I wanted to buy. I buy mostly from NFL Auctions now and for that I pay a premium. There are times I've clearly overpaid but have the knowledge that the item I purchased is authentic. That's my business just as it is Mvandor's business. I don't see a need, when the discussion involves a WR jersey, to be so personally attacking period, and particularly on a completely unrelated subject. There's been far too much of that in this Forum lately. It takes away from the enjoyment of collecting and the purpose of the Forum -- as I'd understood it.

                For whatever it's worth,

                Jason

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                • suicide_squeeze
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1442

                  #38
                  Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                  Originally posted by jbcindc
                  I checked the 14 game worn wide receiver jerseys I own and none of them had an "L" cut. Some of them had nothing beyond the year and size, but any that had a style cut had an "S."

                  I've been burned a couple of times on fake jerseys, and I've benefited from the expertise of people participating in this Forum who have offered valuable advice on jerseys I wanted to buy. I buy mostly from NFL Auctions now and for that I pay a premium. There are times I've clearly overpaid but have the knowledge that the item I purchased is authentic. That's my business just as it is Mvandor's business. I don't see a need, when the discussion involves a WR jersey, to be so personally attacking period, and particularly on a completely unrelated subject. There's been far too much of that in this Forum lately. It takes away from the enjoyment of collecting and the purpose of the Forum -- as I'd understood it.

                  For whatever it's worth,

                  Jason

                  Jason,

                  Well put.

                  It's all my fault. I read this thread from the start, and I'll be the first to tell you.....I don't know diddly about football jerseys. But like others have stated, there is some good reading here to learn, so I read.

                  But I couldn't help choke out a laugh or two when NFLJerseyCollector spewed out his claim about Grey Flannel not consigning a jersey like this.

                  That's when it hit me.....I'm responsible.

                  NFLJerseyCollector is Richard Russek in cognito....coming back to get even with all of us.

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                  • NFLJerseyCollector
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 21

                    #39
                    Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                    Originally posted by suicide_squeeze
                    Jason,
                    But I couldn't help choke out a laugh or two when NFLJerseyCollector spewed out his claim about Grey Flannel not consigning a jersey like this.

                    That's when it hit me.....I'm responsible.

                    NFLJerseyCollector is Richard Russek in cognito....coming back to get even with all of us.
                    Oh Please, why don't you throw in TJ, or even Victor Moreno or whos the other one from Vintage Auction.

                    I personally sell stuff through them as well as buy stuff through them.

                    but reading what you wrote that i'm him is funny and stupid on your part.

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                    • suicide_squeeze
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1442

                      #40
                      Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                      Originally posted by NFLJerseyCollector
                      Oh Please, why don't you throw in TJ, or even Victor Moreno or whos the other one from Vintage Auction.

                      I personally sell stuff through them as well as buy stuff through them.

                      but reading what you wrote that i'm him is funny and stupid on your part.

                      Do you?

                      Really?

                      You must have a set of avocado sized doo-dads to end all.....not to mention a VOID in the deposits side of your accounts receivable ledger.

                      In case you haven't heard, there are a few people here who are just a tad upset that they have been used to finance an ongoing business. But hey, by all means, consign on!

                      Look, I have never been invited to do the Tonight Show. If you can't take a bit of ribbing while sticking up for an auction house who has been lambasted here of late, and has taken retalitory action against the honest concerned posters who share valuable info here, then please accept my apologies for upsetting you with such a rediculously minor attempt at making light of something that happened to me recently.

                      But know that you pretty much stand alone in your high praise for them.

                      Peace, brother.

                      Hey, by the way.....would you bid on a bat coming up in their May auction for me? I've had a hellova time logging into my account recently......

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                      • nyjetsfan14
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 414

                        #41
                        Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                        Originally posted by NFLJerseyCollector
                        Their are 5 different letter that can go after the year and size tagging,
                        • "Q"=Quarterback, usually meaning open Sleeve for QB
                        • "S"=Specialty, most receivers, corners and safeties in the NFL prefer this cut, short sleeves
                        • "L"=Linebacker, and not linemen. Different team have different cut for linebackers. Very short to NO sleeve at all depending on the team.
                        • "O"=Offensive linemen. Both Offensive and Defensive Linemen have no Sleeve on their jersey, if the linemen lift their arms up you could see their armpit
                        • "D"=Defensive Linemen. between the two is spacing.
                        This is inaccurate information as there is actually more Reebok letter codes than just these 5.

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                        • NFLJerseyCollector
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 21

                          #42
                          Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                          Originally posted by suicide_squeeze

                          Look, I have never been invited to do the Tonight Show. If you can't take a bit of ribbing while sticking up for an auction house who has been lambasted here of late, and has taken retalitory action against the honest concerned posters who share valuable info here, then please accept my apologies for upsetting you with such a rediculously minor attempt at making light of something that happened to me recently.
                          I'm not sticking up for anyone, nor any Auction House.
                          For you or anyone who done business with Auction Houses, and feel you got robbed, Learn from your mistake, suck it up and drive on.
                          But don't accuse me of being some one from the Auction House.
                          I don't play 2face here.


                          Originally posted by nyjetsfan14
                          This is inaccurate information as there is actually more Reebok letter codes than just these 5
                          Your must be talking about the letter or number before or after the Main letter Designation ("Q","S","L","O","D"), something like "Q2" or "Q3" or Even "PBO"

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                          • b.heagy
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 1263

                            #43
                            Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                            can someone post a side by side photo of the jersey in question along with a game photo of Owens wearing the same style? I do not see the difference (not a football jersey expert). Any help is appreciated. I looked at photos on google and the sleeves look similar to me.
                            Bill Heagy
                            heagysports.com
                            Go Phillies !

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                            • TriplexXxSports
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1285

                              #44
                              Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                              Originally posted by b.heagy
                              can someone post a side by side photo of the jersey in question along with a game photo of Owens wearing the same style? I do not see the difference (not a football jersey expert). Any help is appreciated. I looked at photos on google and the sleeves look similar to me.
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                              • suicide_squeeze
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 1442

                                #45
                                Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

                                Originally posted by NFLJerseyCollector
                                I'm not sticking up for anyone, nor any Auction House.
                                For you or anyone who done business with Auction Houses, and feel you got robbed, Learn from your mistake, suck it up and drive on.
                                But don't accuse me of being some one from the Auction House.
                                I don't play 2face here.

                                Are you really telling me you thought I was being serious?

                                (I guess some here need it by the numbers.)

                                IT WAS A JOKE. I thought you would have picked up on it from my last post, but instead, you're now directing me to drink and drive.

                                You may not play "2face", but when you make a comment about Grey Flannel "not" selling a jersey like this one, then you're not paying attention.

                                One day we'll be talking about someone's grandmother's undies being described and auctioned off as Steve Garvey's sliding shorts......"with no alterations of any kind"....

                                Welcome to the forum, NFLJerseyCollector.

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