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04-19-2009, 05:54 PM #1
Lou Lampson Question
I know you have to take anything authenticated by him with a grain of salt. Question is, was his reputation always what it is today? When did it first come in to question?
I got an LOA dated 2004 with a game used football that was just a piece of papaer typed with his signature on it.
Any thoughts? I'm not trying to start a bash Lou Lampson thread, I'm genuously curious.
Thanks, Kevin
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04-19-2009, 06:34 PM #2
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Kevin, though I personally have never met Lou Lampson (that I remember) he did go to school here in my hometown and he used to work for The Chicago Bears from what I have been told. Maybe he came to my store, but I have no memories of him.
Now, on this forum you will hear that he is a criminal. I do not believe this to be true. I believe he writes letter of opinions on many questionable items, but I do not believe that he is internationally committing fraud as many would lead you to believe.
I do believe he needs to do more research, but I would bet his view is he is giving an opinion on an item and maybe he feels he can do with without offering enough research to make everyone happy. An opinion doesn't need to be photo-matched, style matched, manufacture matched, etc., but I would think with the high dollar items being authenticated - Lou Lampson would use these formats.
Now, every auction house I have talked to about Lou Lampson tells me what a great guy he is. How he is very nice and pleasant. They also trust his opinions.
I will venture that Lou Lampson will look at an item, decide if he likes it or not and then writes a letter. This was the method of authenticating used before there was this modern concept called The World Wide Web, but these days too much information is known for people to authenticate from pure opinions.
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04-19-2009, 06:48 PM #3
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He repeatedly makes up "facts" which makes him either a liar or an idiot. Your choice.
Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...
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04-19-2009, 07:16 PM #4
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04-19-2009, 07:27 PM #5
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As Joel said, he is giving his opinion. If you want more than an opinion, you can do your own homework.
If you want more than a guess, you can do your own homework.Greg
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04-19-2009, 07:29 PM #6
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Geez... How good is a freakin opinion when the authenticator does not even use the tools available to him. The truth is a couple of provocateurs here continually defend the guy while the majority of the board understands his lack of research. But hey, auction houses love him. I wonder why...
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04-19-2009, 07:29 PM #7
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Interesting. I have never met the man either. I am curious though. In your opinion on a scale of 1 to 10 - 1 being worst and 10 being the best, where do you personally place Lou Lampson ? From what I have read on this forum and the evidence to back it up I do not feel comfortable buying an item based on HIS OPINION.
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04-19-2009, 07:45 PM #8
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I would say 5. My point was if any of us were to make the post that Eric made, we would be banned. Lou Lampson gives an opinion. MEARS gives an opinion. JSA/PSA/insert authenticator here give opinions. I should have known if I said anything that goes against the grain here I would be questioned. Some of you who post on here are NEVER wrong, and God forbid if you were, you would never admit it. But, the truly funny thing I see is that some of you who post on here and throw around your weight have sold Lampson authenticated items recently that were purchased from AMI and other auction houses. That one cracks me up.
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04-19-2009, 07:32 PM #9
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As a former Financial Advisor, I was ultimately always giving my opinion on investments unless of course it was related to factual issues such as setting up trusts, language in wills, college planning structure etc. However if the "opinion" can be construed as complete gross negligance which if you have read the countless horrific examples that Lou has been paid very well over the years to authenticate, and have later been proven completely erroneous, then Eric is spot on. If I would have done what Lou has done, I rightly should have been jailed. People work very hard for their money and if he can go to sleep at night not even trying but still collecting a check while people write checks for tens of thousands of dollars based on his so called expert work, it is a sad testament to this industry. That man should have been put out of business years ago and the people that continue to defend him obviously do not have a clue.
Brett Herman
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Always looking for Cal Ripken Jr. Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell and Orioles game used bats and jersey's.
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04-19-2009, 08:11 PM #10
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There was a link to an eBay auction a few months ago. It was a St. Louis Blues
practice jersey with a Lampson LOA. The jersey was a Sandow durene, size small, store bought that would have fit snuggly on a fifth grader. My opinion is someone paid money for L.L.'s opinion. The jersey was not a fake that was doctored to be a legitimate Blues practice jersey. It was a kid's retail jersey that looked exactly like a kid's retail jersey.
Lampson may very well be a nice guy. However, being a nice guy doesn't pay the rent.
Lampson's "opinions" are messing it up for everyone else's "facts".
If Lampson wrote complimentary letters of opinion, without a charge, it would still be a rip-off.
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