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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
Tell ya a story. I have friend (yes, I do have friends) who was at one of those second-rated sports fairs last year and some poor guys shows up with a Mark McGwire GU bat. He said he paid thousands for it and wanted to sell it for a couple hundred dollars. My friend said nope. I agreed. I could care less if it was GU or not, I don't believe that McGwire was a baseball player, he just hit home runs on steriods, that's it.
First, batter-up, someone tell me why raider's bat isn't real. I'm an idiot if I buy a GU Manny bat that isn't a GU Manny bat, but, if it's real, a Manny GU bat that's not cracked, I'll buy it.
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
re: manny's new home
the LA medical community has long treated celebrities far more A-list than manny ramirez. manny is what passes for a celebrity in places like boston. in LA, not so much. i have a hard time seeing the dodgers team doctor running to TMZ or the enquirer because manny told him he couldn't get it up.
besides, why would the dodgers care if manny was having a sexual dysfunction? i can only understand players hiding two things: injuries and banned PED-use.
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If Manny went to a doctor for some problem and the doctor prescribed a medicine that unexpectedly led to a positive on the steroid test (or if it showed up as a steroid masking agent), then the doctor would be responsible for misinforming Manny about the effects of the medicine and for jeopardizing Manny's career. If this really happened, Ramirez's reps would be screaming bloody murder and suing this doctor for billions. But Manny is keeping quiet--because there is no doctor to blame. This means that he is NOT hall of fame material.Comment
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
Personally, I'm sickened by this whole fiasco.
Manny has got to be one of the stupidest athletes in the history of this world....
He has ruined this season for me. I'm sure I am not alone as a Dodger fan. Every time I think of what a fun year it was going to be, starting off with breaking a 98-yr. old record, and basically leaving all of the Western Divisional foes in a cloud of dust.....now THIS.
AGAIN.
ANOTHER PED ISSUE.
Geezuz....I have a headache, and I don't think I can stand to see the sight of that smiling dreadlocked face again. I just have no respect for a guy who can just hold his middle finger up in the face of society like this while he cheats to get ahead.
In fact, I'd like to see the Dodgers get their attorneys to sue Boras and his "client" and completely void out the two-year contract.
Screw Manny Ramirez. Yes, I'm pissed.
encinorick......I still can tell why you're being so giddy about this whole thing, and why you keep chanting on about a Manny bat. My suggestion to you is to buy your son a James Loney bat, or an Andre Ethier bat.
Forget this self-indulged money grubbing lying bastard.Comment
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
Has any forum member ever been tested for drugs by their employer? I have and it's a simple process. First, you fill out a form listing all of the medications you are currently taking as well as medications that you have taken within the past year. You sign the document and give the sample - well, you actually give two (2) samples.
The sample is sent out and analyzed. If the sample comes back "hot", your list of medications is checked to see if any of your medications, past or present, may have any compounds in them that could have caused the positive test. That's it.
I don't know if MLB has the same procedure (Providing a list of medications) or not but from what I do understand, the players are notified well in advance when they are being tested.
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
interesting article explaining more about HCG:
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
Rudy: Tell me if Mike's Manny bat is legit, otherwise I'm gonna ask Lou Lampson. Seriously.Comment
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
lampson likely knows as much as i do about ramirez bats. unlike lampson however, i don't want to comment on things i know nothing about.
it seems this ramirez bat really has you in a lather. why not ask bobby/"gameused" for help? he has something like 2355 ramirez bats. make a new thread..call it "DESPERATELY SEEKING BOBBY". maybe he'll chime in.
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
Even though these posts are starting to feel like they're just made to draw out reactions, I'll bite...
Why are you doubting the authenticity of the bat? The seller bought it from Andy Benish who sells quality bats and is very reputable. It's a nice looking bat and shows good use, I'd buy it now if I didn't think Manny just destroyed his career, legacy and honor. He has been a plague on baseball for a few years now, all the while laughing to the bank as people like you keep supporting him. He's become lazy, angry, greedy and now caught cheating.
This was the last straw for me on Manny, I crossed him off my list of someone I'd want a gamer from. The arrogant way he carries himself is worse than McGwire, Sosa or Palmiero... He's in the land of Barry Bonds or Clemens now.Comment
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Will somebody sell this guy a friggin bat already??Comment
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The medical consensus that I've read on the drug is that, for a man, it's most commonly used as part of steroids use. Specifically, the drug helps restore lost testosterone from steroid use. Thus, the positive test would be a sign on steroid use, perhaps over a lengthy period of time. There is also the primary use of the drug, for women and fertility, but obviously this would not apply to Ramirez.
Ramirez has said he got it from a physician, but has not named the physician, which is not a good sign.
Lastly, if Ramirez had a legitimate medical use he could have cleared it with MLB and they would have given permission to use it. There are players who have permission from MLB to use steroids and HGH due to real medical issues. Manny saying he had a legitimate medical use without having cleared it with MLB is zero excuse and dubious, because he could have, should have, and I would argue would have, cleared it with MLB if he had a legitimate and above board medical issue.Comment
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
One last point I'd like to make about PEDS and competition, which I think is an important and often overlooked concept. In the Olympics, an athlete is not allowed to complete if he is known to have PEDs in his system. It does not matter whether or not the athlete knowingly or unknowingly took the drugs. He can't compete, period. The reason is because the drugged athlete would have unfair advantage over the other athletes. If it is shown the athlete had his gatoratde spiked when he wasn't looking, he likely would escape punishent, but he still can't compete as the PED in his body would give him an unfair advantage.
In classic MLB thinking, in the first year of punishment, a player would be given a 15 (10?) game suspension for first time testing positive for steroids. However, even after dincontinuation, the postive effects of steroids lasts weeks to months. In other words, MLB allowed players to play who they knew had an unfair advantage due to steroids.Comment
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
Manny's played 80 games for the blue and your acting as if he's been a Dodgers for years.I don't believe that Manny's a cheat like the rest. I believe that Manny is what Manny does, which usually comes down to doing stupid things.
I have a collection of single-signed 500 HR balls (w/o Ruth, Ott, and Foxx) for my son, 22 in all, and there's two catagories, cheaters and non-cheaters. I have 6 in the cheaters (you can guess who they are), but, refuse to put Manny with the cheaters.
I'll even buy a Manny bat for the boy, if you show it here and it's legit.
I bleed Blue, my tears are Manny blue-tears.
2009 World Series
Dodgers v. Jays, Dodger sweep, Manny hits 4 homers in game 4.
Your son has nothing to worry about when he gets his first speeding ticket because Daddy will be there to prove everyone else is wrong.
Face the facts and do some research on what Manny used.Comment
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Re: True Dodger Blue Manny Fan
By the Numbers
Manny Ramirez has always been a consistent run producer, but during his 80-game tenure in Los Angeles, his power numbers have spiked considerably.
I'm not saying that this shows anything definitively, but thought the numbers were actually pretty interesting.Comment
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