Ot: Neutral 3rd Party Authenticator - Need Help !!!!

[jordan23collectibles]

What were the responses you got from the other parties? Great item by the way.

The forum is a very valuable place to find information about almost anything related to GU collecting.

And when a fellow member needs help, an honest opinion goes a long way.

I still haven't received the findings from both but I will definitely post here.

Thank you for your comments

[jobathenut]

jordan-I was just wondering as i asked in my other post to you.You say that the two parties differed in thier thoughts on the item.So i asked how they differ,and you said you have'nt heard back from them about it.So i guess my question is,how do you they differed then? I guess i just don't understand that.This forum is great to get advice as there are alot of knowledgable people on here.Hopefully those people will see this thread and help you.

Fellow GUU Members,

I would like to ask for your help if possible.

I have a 10K item that was reviewed by 2 well known authograph authenticators (PSA/DNA and JSA) and both have different opinions on the piece.

Who do I go to for a NEUTRAL 3rd Party Authenticator that can help in situations like this?

Any help is appreciated.

jordan23collectibles

[jordan23collectibles]

jordan-I was just wondering as i asked in my other post to you.You say that the two parties differed in thier thoughts on the item.So i asked how they differ,and you said you have'nt heard back from them about it.So i guess my question is,how do you they differed then? I guess i just don't understand that.This forum is great to get advice as there are alot of knowledgable people on here.Hopefully those people will see this thread and help you.

The reason why I know they differ is that this issue is still being clarified at this point and I am not at liberty to say the findings until I receive the letters in my hand which is forthcoming to me in a week or so.

The only thing I want to get out of this is to find a 3rd party authenticator that would assess this item without looking at the findings of both PSA/DNA and JSA and provide an honest opinion on the signatures.

It is better to see the findings in writing before putting it up to the forum to be more accurate and not pure speculation on which signature was in question.

Hope this clarifies the matter.

[sportscentury]

Seems like a ton of money to spend on an item where there will always be a lingering doubt, at least to some degree. Will a third reviewer (i.e., tie breaker) really put your mind to rest so sufficiently that you'd be interested in pulling a $10G trigger? Just my .02.

[jobathenut]

sportscentury-I have to agree with you.For me to spend that much,i would need to know without a doubt.But as i understand it,jordan already bought the item.But i could be wrong about that.That's just the way i read it.I think that jordan is just looking for a authenticity company to authenticate it.

Seems like a ton of money to spend on an item where there will always be a lingering doubt, at least to some degree. Will a third reviewer (i.e., tie breaker) really put your mind to rest so sufficiently that you'd be interested in pulling a $10G trigger? Just my .02.

[jobathenut]

jordan-thanks,now i understand.

The reason why I know they differ is that this issue is still being clarified at this point and I am not at liberty to say the findings until I receive the letters in my hand which is forthcoming to me in a week or so.

The only thing I want to get out of this is to find a 3rd party authenticator that would assess this item without looking at the findings of both PSA/DNA and JSA and provide an honest opinion on the signatures.

It is better to see the findings in writing before putting it up to the forum to be more accurate and not pure speculation on which signature was in question.

Hope this clarifies the matter.

[cordovacollector]

I would not buy the item. There is already so much fading and bleeding with the signatures on the white portions that in years ahead, they won't even be legible.

[sportscentury]

I would not buy the item. There is already so much fading and bleeding with the signatures on the white portions that in years ahead, they won't even be legible.

I have to agree. May I ask: Was the Jordan signature the only one in question? Some of the others look a bit questionable. For me, too many red flags (sorry for the pun). Save your $10,000 and wait for something in which you can have confidence.

Is this the type of thing being discussed over on the GUU Autograph Forum?

[5kRunner]

Just curious.

No of these guys are dead, right? How feasible would it be to find a similar unautographed item and spend $10,000 to acquire the autos. That way you know they are legit.

Of course I have no idea if any of these guys do auto shows or anything, so it might not be possible.

Just a thought.