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**sammy** · 05-12-2006, 09:32 AM

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**suave1477** · 05-12-2006, 10:11 AM

You could be right but we will never know unless an invetigation is performed. Or it could be purely coincidental!!!

**skipcareyisfat** · 05-12-2006, 10:49 AM

It seems like a similar discussion was brought up in an earlier thread. I think you might be on to something but it might be a little hard to prove this. Anyone willing to infiltrate one of the auction houses as a spy? Only kidding of course........

**otismalibu** · 05-12-2006, 10:54 AM

Yeah, how could you prove it. Not that I'm doubting it happens. EBay has plenty of problems, but at least you can usually see who you're bidding against. Except for those red flag "User ID kept private" auctions.

Greg

**skipcareyisfat** · 05-12-2006, 11:13 AM

Ebay has it's share of shill bidders, but i can generally live with the fact that a seller wants an extra $20 for an item, versus hundreds or thousands of dollars "extra" you may pay to a major auction.

Jason

Originally Posted by otismalibu

Yeah, how could you prove it. Not that I'm doubting it happens. EBay has plenty of problems, but at least you can usually see who you're bidding against. Except for those red flag "User ID kept private" auctions.

Greg

**sammy** · 05-12-2006, 11:29 AM

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**trsent** · 05-12-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by otismalibu

Yeah, how could you prove it. Not that I'm doubting it happens. EBay has plenty of problems, but at least you can usually see who you're bidding against. Except for those red flag "User ID kept private" auctions.

Greg, are you stating that every auction that is private on eBay is a red flag issue? Please explain.

I made my point years ago that I keep certain auctions private so people do not email my bidders and either try to sell them a similar item or to tell them why they do not like my item. It is not their business, if they have an issue they can contact eBay or me personally, I provide my contact information easily available.

I started this practice about six years ago when someone emailed my bidder that my Upper Deck Authenticated Michael Jordan autographed jersey was bogus. I figured why do I need to have 3rd parties disrupting my auctions in such a manner?

**ham1963** · 05-12-2006, 12:54 PM

I agree with you guys I do not understand why a auction house has to charge a 17-20 % buyers fee then charge $79. for shipping 2 jerseys. I do not have a problem with a company or people making money but hey lets be fair about it. Why would I want to spend my money to buy from them I guess if the item is worth it. As far as the time reset I remember that I got into a bidding war with a person on an MLB auction item and I would bid then the clock would reset to allow someone else to bid. It took us almost 2 hours to end the auction past the auction deadline. I guess now I really need to think before I make the bid.

**otismalibu** · 05-12-2006, 01:03 PM

Greg, are you stating that every auction that is private on eBay is a red flag issue? Please explain.

It is to me. I don't bid on items where the bidder IDs are private. Same goes for sellers that have private feedback or don't accept Paypal. One has to protect themselves. Do I think there are valid reasons for hiding the identity of bidders? I suppose...I've heard the arguments for it. Do I think sellers use it as a tool to shill bid? Absolutely. Based on many of your posts that I've read, you seem to always give the benefit of the doubt to the seller, which is fine. I on the other hand, do not. But it should be of no concern to you, I'm just one of those $100 jersey guys.

Greg

**trsent** · 05-12-2006, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by otismalibu

It is to me. I don't bid on items where the bidder IDs are private. Same goes for sellers that have private feedback or don't accept Paypal. One has to protect themselves. Do I think there are valid reasons for hiding the identity of bidders? I suppose...I've heard the arguments for it. Do I think sellers use it as a tool to shill bid? Absolutely. Based on many of your posts that I've read, you seem to always give the benefit of the doubt to the seller, which is fine. I on the other hand, do not. But it should be of no concern to you, I'm just one of those $100 jersey guys.

Ok, your point is valid, but you are posting a general statement on a public forum so I figured we could discuss it - Weather you are a $100.00 jersey guy (which was me quoting what others mentioned to me) or a $10,000.00 jersey guy, you are still a person with an opinion.

I often use the thought innocent until proved otherwise, which often people use words such as "fake" on this forum without anything but their own views of an item. They don't research it before making a claim, or ask questions of the seller, so this is why I often back the sellers who are not on here defending themselves. Do you want to only have people bashing topics without a defense?

I do agree with you, I do not understand why people have hidden feedback, unless they are buying for resale to their customers and they do not want their customer to see what they are paying for items or maybe they are buying pornographic materials and they do not want people to see this.

Look at myself, I agreed with you, then I gave reasons I guess people do it!

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