1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

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  • Birdbats
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 1439

    1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

    I tried to bite my tongue about this one, but with the bid at almost $11,000, something needs to be said.



    The Cardinals had names on the backs of their jerseys in 1962, even during spring training. According to an article posted on MEARS' Web site last August, there's no evidence this particular jersey ever did.

    According to the MEARS article, the jersey was sold originally by SCP in April 2008 (lot #48). Now, SCP is auctioning it off again, calling it a "wonderful early Gibson gamer" that "shows excellent use." They never say it was worn by Gibson during the 1962 season, though the insinuation is evident.

    The jersey does show good use and, from the front, looks like an ideal Gibby gamer. The question is, who wore it and when? Because in 1962, Gibson's actual gamers had his name on the back.
    Jeff Scott
    birdbats@charter.net
    http://www.birdbats.com

  • lund6771
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 805

    #2
    Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

    I'm surprised that there are people bidding over $10,000 and yet they don't spend a couple of minutes to research something so blatently obvious?

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    • hblakewolf
      Banned
      • Nov 2005
      • 1870

      #3
      Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

      Lund-

      Research? Maybe the MEARS A5 gade will shed some light onto this jersey and any issues surrounding it. A5 is pretty low for a grading system that could have awarded an A10.

      Howard Wolf
      hblakewolf@comcast.net

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      • yanks12025
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 3118

        #4
        Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

        When the jersey was in there online store it said how it was missing the name on the back.

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        • hblakewolf
          Banned
          • Nov 2005
          • 1870

          #5
          Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

          As a side note, the 5 on the back of the shirt not only looks larger than the 4, but it also looks to be sewn at a slight slant. Is this 5 original? Again, maybe the MEARS A5 grade will assit on this and the entire jersey history.

          Howard Wolf
          hblakewolf@comcast.net

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          • both-teams-played-hard
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 2712

            #6
            Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

            The chain-stitched "name in tail" looks questionable. It looks better done than the chain-stitched names of Cardinals gamers from this era. Am I wrong?

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            • lund6771
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 805

              #7
              Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

              does Mears' letter say anything about the NOB possibly being removed?...would this be something visually obvious under a light table?

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              • Vintagedeputy
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3172

                #8
                Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

                Originally posted by hblakewolf
                As a side note, the 5 on the back of the shirt not only looks larger than the 4, but it also looks to be sewn at a slight slant. Is this 5 original? Again, maybe the MEARS A5 grade will assit on this and the entire jersey history.

                Howard Wolf
                hblakewolf@comcast.net
                The 4 on the front is also smaller than the 5.

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                • Birdbats
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1439

                  #9
                  Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

                  Originally posted by lund6771
                  does Mears' letter say anything about the NOB possibly being removed?...would this be something visually obvious under a light table?
                  Don't know what the LOA says, but in his article posted on MEARS' Web site, Dave Grob wrote that he completed "a detailed visual inspection and evaluation of this jersey using lighted magnification, a light table, UV light and references." His finding was that the jersey had "no discernible signs that a name was ever applied to the jersey."

                  As for the numbers, Dave wrote, "The numerals all appear to be original and vintage. The adhesive on the back of all numerals has darkened and cracked as would be expected."
                  Jeff Scott
                  birdbats@charter.net
                  http://www.birdbats.com

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                  • Birdbats
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1439

                    #10
                    Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

                    It's back!

                    This Rawlings flannel dates from Gibson's fourth season in the majors. Its proper tagging includes his name and year designation stitched on the front tail "Gibson 62" below the manufacturer's tag noting the size "42". The jersey shows excellent game use. A wonderful early Gibson gamer with superb display quality. LOA from MEARS A5


                    Gee, what could they be leaving out? Again.

                    http://scpauctions.com/LotDetail.asp...%28MEARS-A5%29
                    Jeff Scott
                    birdbats@charter.net
                    http://www.birdbats.com

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                    • legaleagle92481
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2538

                      #11
                      Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

                      I think the grade says it all A-5 is a very low MEARS grade.

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                      • trsent
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 3739

                        #12
                        Re: 1962 Bob Gibson jersey -- SCP Auctions

                        Originally posted by hblakewolf
                        Lund-

                        Research? Maybe the MEARS A5 gade will shed some light onto this jersey and any issues surrounding it. A5 is pretty low for a grading system that could have awarded an A10.

                        Howard Wolf
                        hblakewolf@comcast.net
                        Originally posted by legaleagle92481
                        I think the grade says it all A-5 is a very low MEARS grade.
                        I think Howard already mentioned this thought a year ago July.

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