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Thread: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
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05-23-2006, 10:00 AM #31
Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
Nathan:
Overall, you hit the nail right on the head. Mr. Suave is right Maris was not a nobody, however he also was not Mickey Mantle. Like I had mentioned in an earlier posting, Not everyone likes the media or certainly agrees with them. However, in the past twenty plus years of Bonds career, to a man every single reporter that I have ever heard interviewed on who was or is the most difficult athlete to deal with said Bonds hands down. This is probably 20 or more reporters both from his days in Pittsburgh and now in San Fran. They all said he is a jerk. All those people can't be wrong. Certainly that is one element of dealing with Barry, but if Bonds claims how unfair the media is, who brought that on themselves? Barry did and has nobody to blame but himself.
Brett
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05-23-2006, 10:12 AM #32
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Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
Originally Posted by Nathan
In the meantime, don't forget that when Henry Aaron broke Babe Ruth's mark he received more mail than anyone could imagine. The estimates were that about a third of the mail he received was hate mail because a black man broke the record of The Babe.
Barry Bonds has not gone out of his way like the great Cal Ripken, Jr. did to be a fan favorite, and that is too bad, but his numbers do speak for them self.
By the way, the way Major League Baseball embarrassed Roger Maris' achievement is one of the darkest spots of MLB history because they destroyed the man. I lost my copy, but Rick Telander wrote a great article in Sports Illustrated about 20 years ago titled: "The Record That Almost Broke Him" about Baseball spite towards Roger Maris for just doing his job.
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05-23-2006, 01:31 PM #33
Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
Originally Posted by trsent
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05-23-2006, 03:55 PM #34
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Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
Not only does it give you a sense of what he went through I think that has to be one of the best, well put together, well documented movies of that era.
I give 2 thumbs up and a toe to Billy Crystal for that movie it captured the essnce of the Yankees, Mantle, Maris, and New York of that time period. Me being from New York it made me actually take a step back.
Even the cast was incredible look a likes Barry Pepper and Thomas Jane were dead on hits for Maris and Mantle especially the southern twang and charisma he picked up to play the role of Mantle
If you havent seen this movie yet I strongly urge you to go and see it before uttering another word of Maris
AND NO IM NOT THE PRMOTER FOR THE MOVIE LOL LOL
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05-23-2006, 03:56 PM #35
Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
Originally Posted by sylbry
You can only imagine what Greenberg must have gone through in 1938. His right-handed HR record was of course broken by McGwire and Sosa in 1998.
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05-23-2006, 08:50 PM #36
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Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
I just need to clarify here; I don't mean that Roger Maris was a complete nobody. He was certainly an above-average player during his career but fell short of the big stars of his era. But very few thought that he would be the one to launch an assault on 60, particularly with big hitters like Mickey Mantle around. Maris, going into 1961, was best known for his all-time high school record of four kickoff returns for a touchdown in a game. But for baseball, Maris not only wasn't a first-ballot HOFer, he still isn't in.
I do like the fact that Joel brought up Hank Aaron receiving hate mail, including that which the FBI considered to be "credible" death threats. And Hank Greenberg in 1938 was no exception, particularly for being a Jewish ballplayer in an era in which anti-Semitism was more widespread and more overt. What makes those two chapters particularly shameful is that neither one of those guys did anything that would make them to be the object of such hatred.
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05-23-2006, 09:45 PM #37
Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
Nathan, your point is well taken. I understood what you meant.
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05-24-2006, 01:27 PM #38
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Re: Wells Blasts "Juiced" Bonds
Originally Posted by Nathan
They didn't know it but when they murdered Martin Luther King they made sure his life and message would be spread forever. Too bad a large portion of the public still doesn't get it.