O/T: Vick is in, Rose maybe - This is a Bad Day

[AWA85]

Reds fans can rejoice the Rose talk! I would put him in the hall as a player, and just not allow him to ever manage again.

[Capital-Sports]

Rose deserves to be in the hall.

Vick playing in the NFL again....well that's another story.

[NYCrulesU]

Reds fans can rejoice the Rose talk! I would put him in the hall as a player, and just not allow him to ever manage again.

I would agree with this. He should be in as a player, but never allowed to manage again.

[fabes23]

I couldn't agree more with JHunt and the Stallworth comment! This guy smokes some weed, drinks, drives and kills a human, and gets 30 days. Un-freakin'-believable!

[frikativ54]

I couldn't agree more with JHunt and the Stallworth comment! This guy smokes some weed, drinks, drives and kills a human, and gets 30 days. Un-freakin'-believable!

The difference is in the intent. Drunk drivers don't intend to kill anyone; they are making a stupid decision. Michael Vick is a cold-blooded dog killer. Correspond with a few prisoners; there is a huge difference between a person who intentionally murders vs. a person who drives drunk and incidentally kills. A good percentage of killers are monsters; drunk drivers are negligent.

[tacprc]

Rose is the greatest! Put him in the Hall.

[LastingsMilledge85]

If Vick wants to rise to stardom, he will join the USFL.

[bucephalus]

I seriously doubt many of those old timers were choir-boys off the field. Nobody was in a fishbowl back then, and human-nature being what it is, the temptations would have been too overwhelming. And they were further insulated by the press if treated well by the player. So, if you omitted stars based on moral ethics as you would today, you'd have (conservatively) maybe 75% left in the Hall? I mean, c'mon. These were grown men with appetites who traveled from city to city without a moral compass.

[both-teams-played-hard]

These were grown men with appetites who traveled from city to city without a moral compass.

[Capital-Sports]

I seriously doubt many of those old timers were choir-boys off the field. Nobody was in a fishbowl back then, and human-nature being what it is, the temptations would have been too overwhelming. And they were further insulated by the press if treated well by the player. So, if you omitted stars based on moral ethics as you would today, you'd have (conservatively) maybe 75% left in the Hall? I mean, c'mon. These were grown men with appetites who traveled from city to city without a moral compass.

Very true. The media plays a HUGE role in society today.
Imagine if Ty Cobb did the things he did back then today

Rose deserves to be in the HOF...hands down. thats it. no coaching, assisting....just reinstated for the HOF.

Stallworth......think about M.A.D.D. and then you'll know where I stand.

Vick....think about your own dog and you'll know where I stand.