Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

[ArthurO]

Greetings,

I just purchased a 2001 David Ortiz Twins Alternate Jersey.

It looks right except: The front number is white and not red like
others I have seen. This has the American Flag Sewn over the
MLB patch on the back of the neck (POST 9/11?) all the patches
look correct numers and name plate appear to be sewn on properly
no evidence of tampering or removed, altered etc.

Another thing I noticed is the size 48, (I've always heard to never
go by the size because they often vary) no extra length or sleeve
100% Polyester tag and "tapered Body" tag as well (Which doesn't
make sense to me)

ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED...

I WOULD LIKE TO ACT FAST in requesting my refund (just wanted
to make sure there was no variation of the Twinkies alternate jerseys)

Thank you in advance!

Arthur

[staindsox]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

You should post some pics, including a shot of the tagging. Most fake Twins jerseys can be spotted by incorrect tagging.

Chris

[ArthurO]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

David Ortiz 2001 Game Used Jersey Size 48 From Trainer - eBay (item 320400391687 end time Jul-24-09 18:03:01 PDT)



For some reason I can't upload the photos I took,
Here is a link to the item, hopefully this will help,
PLMK

Thanks again in advance...


Arthur

[ArthurO]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

I hope this works,

Thanks again,

[hblakewolf]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

The shirt you have is a complete train wreck!

TAGGING: The large Russell tag appears to have been lifted on the bottom. Likewise, the year tag is totally incorrect for a 2001 Russell jersey. There should be a strip tag with year/uniform #/set.

#'s: The front 27 has the colors reversed

N.O.B.: The letetrs are not the correct style, especially the Z

This shirt below was offered in an AMI auction and also included a team LOA. Note the differences in tagging, N.O.B. and front #'s.

I'd immediately file a dispute with PayPal, contact the Ebay seller and seek a refund. Likewise, you may want to advise the seller to make friends with new team trainers!

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net




2001 David Ortiz Twins Game Used Alternate Jersey.

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2001 David Ortiz Twins Game Used Alternate Jersey.

One of the Red Sox most important players. The man who leads with his bat and in the club house, David Ortiz, wore this sweet Minnesota Twins alternate jersey during the 2001 season. David put nice use on this size 52 Russell Athletic shirt, complete with factory embroidered 100th A.L. and classic Twins patches. No 9/11 flag exists, as Ortiz wore jersey before September 11th. Jersey has Velcro fastner between button two and three and an added 2" length as noted on flap tag, in addition to 3" extra sleeve length. Comes with Twins paperwork.

[mbenga28]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

when you file a dispute with PayPal, what would the reason be under? the buyer should have done his research before bidding and winning the jersey.

[ArthurO]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

Howard, I appreciate your help,

Thank you,

Arthur

[hblakewolf]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

when you file a dispute with PayPal, what would the reason be under? the buyer should have done his research before bidding and winning the jersey.

Brilliant!

How about simply stating the facts that the merchandise purchased is fake, support it with evidence/photos and file your claim.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net

[mbenga28]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

sure, but doesn't PayPal state you can file a claim under one of these two reasons

I did not receive an item I purchased

or

the item I received is significantly not as described.


OP did receive the jersey and the one that was showin in the auction, so will PayPal still consider his case?

[TNTtoys]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

sure, but doesn't PayPal state you can file a claim under one of these two reasons

I did not receive an item I purchased

or

the item I received is significantly not as described.


OP did receive the jersey and the one that was showin in the auction, so will PayPal still consider his case?

I would go with OPTION 2.

Wasn't the item described as a David Ortiz game used jersey? If so, it is significantly not as described!!!

[mbenga28]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

the jersey does show "use" based on the taggings, but how is the buyer going to show this use was not done by Ortiz? I could see he would have a point if the jersey he received had pristine tags and looked like a game issued while the auction and photos show one with good use.

I wish the buyer the best and hope it gets resolved in his favor.

[TNTtoys]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

the jersey does show "use" based on the taggings, but how is the buyer going to show this use was not done by Ortiz? I could see he would have a point if the jersey he received had pristine tags and looked like a game issued while the auction and photos show one with good use.

I wish the buyer the best and hope it gets resolved in his favor.

That's not the point. Anyone could have worn the jersey. The argument is black and white. If the jersey is listed as a "GAME USED DAVID ORTIZ TWINS JERSEY" and very simple photos can show that the Twins never wore that style jersey (i.e. wrong fonts, colors, etc.) then it could not be as described.

Imho, the buyer should have looked at 1 or 2 photos online to verify the style of the jersey before shelling out $300 of his hard earned dollars. I suppose that's going to be a lesson learned... but that doesn't excuse outright fraud.

[staindsox]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

Don't even deal with Paypal. Call your card company (if you used a credit card for the payment) and have them take care of it. You will have to do some paperwork, but you will win the dispute.

[ArthurO]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

Thank you TNT: IT IS FRAUD among other I believe: Mail Fraud,
Wire Fraud, Misrepresentation, etc.

I have seen Twins Jerseys with the Different color fonts on
the front of the Jersey. I didn't realize that the Alternates
such as this had red numbers on both sides; My mistake?
Perhaps, But you are right It does not justify selling a fake.

mbenga28 doesn't seem to understand the point (based on what
he has posted)

I have and will take necessary steps to resolve the issue:
There are other avenues at my disposal.

I appreciate everyone's help thus far, I don't appreciate getting
fooled or swindled (I don't think anyone does) but I guess I have
to sharpen my skills/knowledge a bit more...

Arthur

[jppopma]

Re: Help with David Ortiz Twins Jersey

Total mess of a jersey....beyond what has already been stated, I doubt Ortiz ever fit into a size 48! Also tapered usually refers to being tapered in, not out. Good luck with the appeal and getting your money back.