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  • hblakewolf
    Banned
    • Nov 2005
    • 1870

    Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

    I've received several questions about the following jersey currently offered in the Vintage Authentics auction:

    "2008 Indians game worn Victor Martinez jersey, Lampson grade 8.5"




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    Lou may want to take a quick 15 second look at Getty or photos from 2007 and 2008, showing the names on the back of the Indians jerseys. The Tribe switched from the offered "3-D/Shadow" style to traditional block lettering in 2008. The shirt in question is pre-2008.

    Yet another fine job of authenticating by Sweet Lou!

    Howard Wolf
    hblakewolf@comcast.net
  • hblakewolf
    Banned
    • Nov 2005
    • 1870

    #2
    Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

    Here is a shot of Grady Sizemore from 2008 in his blue jersey-note the block lettering on the name, not the 3-D/shadow style as worn pre-2008 and as found on the "2008" Martinez jersey that Lampson graded an 8.5:

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    Howard Wolf
    hblakewolf@comcast.net

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    • spartakid
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 1281

      #3
      Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

      So is the jersey bad all together, or has Lou made a "mistake" (I use the term very loosely) and the jersey is more recent, but still game used? Ricardo
      Ricardo Montoya

      ri.montoya at yahoo dot com

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      • hblakewolf
        Banned
        • Nov 2005
        • 1870

        #4
        Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

        Originally posted by spartakid
        So is the jersey bad all together, or has Lou made a "mistake" (I use the term very loosely) and the jersey is more recent, but still game used? Ricardo
        Ricardo-

        Great question!

        I suggest you ask Lampson and let us know what he says.

        Howard Wolf
        hblakewolf@comcast.net

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        • spartakid
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 1281

          #5
          Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

          Well Howard, maybe I should practice for Lou by going after Bin Laden, then, and only then, can I hope to have honed by skills enough to find the ever elusive Mr. Lampson......
          Ricardo Montoya

          ri.montoya at yahoo dot com

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          • suicide_squeeze
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 1442

            #6
            Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

            Originally posted by hblakewolf
            I've received several questions about the following jersey currently offered in the Vintage Authentics auction:

            "2008 Indians game worn Victor Martinez jersey, Lampson grade 8.5"




            [ATTACH]27914[/ATTACH]

            Lou may want to take a quick 15 second look at Getty or photos from 2007 and 2008, showing the names on the back of the Indians jerseys. The Tribe switched from the offered "3-D/Shadow" style to traditional block lettering in 2008. The shirt in question is pre-2008.

            Yet another fine job of authenticating by Sweet Lou!

            Howard Wolf
            hblakewolf@comcast.net

            In the infamous words of "Chief"......



            "Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.................................... ....Juicy Fruit"

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            • joelsabi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 3073

              #7
              Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

              dont authenticator have examplar photos that they are suppose to use to compare stuff to like JSA has for photographs. I hear JSA has thousands of examplar that they have in their database.

              anyone ever ask a game use authenticator how they come up with their conclusion that they are authentic.
              Regards,
              Joel S.
              joelsabi @ gmail.com
              Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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              • kingjammy24
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 3119

                #8
                Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                lou came to mind when i read this story:



                substitute preston for any of the auction houses that employ 'ol lou and "harass 2" for lou himself. even the part about "urinating on evidence" seems to fit in a metaphorical sense.

                rudy.

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                • rj_lucas
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 489

                  #9
                  Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                  Originally posted by joelsabi
                  anyone ever ask a game use authenticator how they come up with their conclusion that they are authentic.
                  Whoa there big fella, that's crazy talk...

                  Rick
                  rickjlucas@gmail.com

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                  • capitalssticks
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 311

                    #10
                    Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                    Good Ole Sweet Lou, Hes the one guy i can honestly say has put his stamp on more fakes than authentics. With Jordan going into the hall soon i wouldnt be suprised to see him ok a bunch more fakes like he did ten years ago

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                    • joelsabi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3073

                      #11
                      Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                      Originally posted by rj_lucas
                      Whoa there big fella, that's crazy talk...

                      Rick
                      rickjlucas@gmail.com
                      hi rick,

                      i am assuming that people ask question when they submit an item to be authenticated such as their process of authenticating an item. maybe i am naive and people just trust that they will do their best. like in this example, how could this be missed if they had exemplars. i assume that people ask questions when their item comes back unauthentic. it just seems that bad item get authenticated all the time and then its up to the buyer to prove that the item is not what the COA claims it to be.
                      Regards,
                      Joel S.
                      joelsabi @ gmail.com
                      Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                      • rj_lucas
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 489

                        #12
                        Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                        Originally posted by joelsabi
                        hi rick,

                        i am assuming that people ask question when they submit an item to be authenticated such as their process of authenticating an item. maybe i am naive and people just trust that they will do their best. like in this example, how could this be missed if they had exemplars. i assume that people ask questions when their item comes back unauthentic. it just seems that bad item get authenticated all the time and then its up to the buyer to prove that the item is not what the COA claims it to be.
                        I'm completely on-board with you. My previous post was an attempt (emphasis on attempt) at irony e.g. if every collector had your common sense, the house of cards we call the memorabilia industry would collapse overnight.

                        Rick
                        rickjlucas@gmail.com

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                        • hblakewolf
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1870

                          #13
                          Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                          Originally posted by hblakewolf
                          I've received several questions about the following jersey currently offered in the Vintage Authentics auction:

                          "2008 Indians game worn Victor Martinez jersey, Lampson grade 8.5"




                          [ATTACH]27914[/ATTACH]

                          Lou may want to take a quick 15 second look at Getty or photos from 2007 and 2008, showing the names on the back of the Indians jerseys. The Tribe switched from the offered "3-D/Shadow" style to traditional block lettering in 2008. The shirt in question is pre-2008.

                          Yet another fine job of authenticating by Sweet Lou!

                          Howard Wolf
                          hblakewolf@comcast.net
                          Below is a photo of 2, 2008 gamers I picked-up. Notice the block letters for the names, as it should be. The 3-D/shadow was last used in 2007. Not sure how Lampson classified the Martinez as a 2008, but a 2 second search on Getty would have confirmed this.

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                          Both shirts are available-email me if interested.

                          Howard Wolf
                          hblakewolf@comcast.net

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                          • suicide_squeeze
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1442

                            #14
                            Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                            Howard,

                            What size is the Sizemore?

                            Thanks,

                            Steve

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                            • hblakewolf
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 1870

                              #15
                              Re: Lampson Is Still On His A Game!!!

                              Originally posted by suicide_squeeze
                              Howard,

                              What size is the Sizemore?

                              Thanks,

                              Steve
                              Steve-

                              The jersey is one of the best Sizemore's I've seen. Tons of use, size 48.

                              Thanks.

                              Howard Wolf
                              hblakewolf@comcast.net

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