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08-13-2009, 10:31 AM #1
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Opinions: Is this the same bat?
I emailed the seller a couple of days ago about this bat and have received no response. Does this appear to be the same bat to you?
Click the Bagwell in the first link.
http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ht=bagwell+bat
Auction listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Chris
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08-13-2009, 11:22 AM #2
Re: Opinions: Is this the same bat?
Looks kind of similar, but it's really tough to tell. Is there a specific question you have about the bat?
Les Zukor
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08-13-2009, 11:27 AM #3
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Re: Opinions: Is this the same bat?
I was just wondering if anyone else thought this was the same bat? It was first listed on here as issued and then on ebay as used. If you look above the T in Houston, that mark is in the exact same space as on the other bat.
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08-13-2009, 11:31 AM #4
Re: Opinions: Is this the same bat?
Chris,
The other thing that is a red flag is that white streak on the barrel. Do you see how it is on both of the bats? It doesn't seem to extend as far in the one photo, but the light is hitting it, so I don't know.
I sure would be interested in the seller's response, especially since he is a forum member.Les Zukor
bagwellgameused@gmail.com
Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items
http://www.bagwellgameused.com
(617) 682-0408
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08-13-2009, 11:56 AM #5
Re: Opinions: Is this the same bat?
eBay gu bat
GUU for sale issued bat
What do you guys think?Les Zukor
bagwellgameused@gmail.com
Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items
http://www.bagwellgameused.com
(617) 682-0408
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08-13-2009, 12:05 PM #6
Re: Opinions: Is this the same bat?
Looks like the same bat to me. That mark near the T looks identical.
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08-13-2009, 12:14 PM #7
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From the auction for this 2005 bat: "The pine tar is fresh and still sticky!"
Les Zukor
bagwellgameused@gmail.com
Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items
http://www.bagwellgameused.com
(617) 682-0408
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08-13-2009, 12:34 PM #8
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08-13-2009, 02:32 PM #9
Re: Opinions: Is this the same bat?
Now that we have established that this is likely the same bat, what should we conclude about the seller? If you ask me, this is a case of deliberate bat altering. Pine tar was added and use was contrived, for the purpose of making money at the hands of an unsuspecting buyer.
The bat didn't sell, but I am upset, because I considered purchasing that Bagwell bat on eBay. Unlike tigerhidden, I didn't have the good sense to look at the seller's past offerings on GUU. And, had I the money, and had I not just acquired a Bagwell bat, I could have been the victim.
What bothers me most is the lack of ethics. As I have seen with other sellers, profits are being put above the integrity of the hobby. For every bat that is caught, there are several others that float into the collecting world, and that cannot be distinguished from regular bats. This poisons the hobby.Les Zukor
bagwellgameused@gmail.com
Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items
http://www.bagwellgameused.com
(617) 682-0408
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08-13-2009, 03:33 PM #10
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Re: Opinions: Is this the same bat?
I also emailed the seller and I asked if it was the same bat - he assured me that it was not. I think we should let him explain before the firing squad starts shooting. It could be lighting - being lazy & using a old pic - fraud.. Just my two cents, not worth alot I know. Give it some time to get it figured out or we can just move on to the next bagwell bat.
Shawn