Pinstripe Question???

**xpress34** · 09-13-2009, 01:07 PM

Re: Pinstripe Question???

Originally posted by jetersbatboy

Has anyone seen a pinstripe jersey with the exact same pinstripe pattern on another pinstripe jersey? I have seen a few close to one another, but not one exactly the same....My guess it would use to much material and cost to much to make them the exact same, even if there mass produced. the pinstripe variations must be in the thousands if not millions!!!

It would be impossible to make them all the same - size variations (40, 42,44,46, etc) - special tailoring (extra 2" - shorten sleeves - tapered, etc.).

It is also why pinstripe jerseys are easier to photomatch - matching logos and such at various points touching pinstripe, etc.

- Chris

**LastingsMilledge85** · 09-13-2009, 04:59 PM

Re: Pinstripe Question???

Like I said I was just trying to give my opinion, no need to call me out when I'm trying to help you. It's just difficult to photomatch your jersey on such minor details. But that shouldn't matter anyway if it's game used chances are it's game used.

**jetersbatboy** · 09-14-2009, 12:00 AM

Re: Pinstripe Question???

Originally posted by LastingsMilledge85

Like I said I was just trying to give my opinion, no need to call me out when I'm trying to help you. It's just difficult to photomatch your jersey on such minor details. But that shouldn't matter anyway if it's game used chances are it's game used.

I am sorry that you are thinking, I am calling you out. All I wanted to do was Check what I thought was fact. That all pinstripe jersey are not of the exact same cut... I just spent a lot of time, trying to photo match my jersey. To a way I believed correct, by using the pinstripe pattern.
Aloha Scott

**joelsabi** · 09-14-2009, 12:50 AM

Re: Pinstripe Question???

this thread might be helpful.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=10230

**jetersbatboy** · 09-14-2009, 01:00 AM

Re: Pinstripe Question???

Joel,
Seeing as have about 30 different points of match on the rear numbers alone and a identical under arm seam edge, would I be safe in calling it a 100% match?
Scott

**kingjammy24** · 09-14-2009, 02:05 AM

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Game Used Forums

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=854

team wordmark in the same location? very likely.
front numbers in the same location? likely.
back numbers in the same location? less likely.
nob in the same location? not likely.
identical shoulder/body seams? highly unlikely.

for the numbers, they'll often use the pinstripes themselves as placement guides. i haven't seen the specific jersey in question here or viewed any pdfs so i have no opinion on that.

rudy.

**jetersbatboy** · 09-14-2009, 06:58 PM

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Guys thanks for post!

Rudy, if you have sometime can you take a look at my files and give your thoughts of my "photo match". Your opinion is really respected as a jersey expert on this forum, and your thoughts would be appreciated. If you need better images I can email them out.
Thanks Scott

Attached Files

**joelsabi** · 09-15-2009, 02:20 AM

Re: Pinstripe Question???

Originally posted by jetersbatboy

Joel,
Seeing as have about 30 different points of match on the rear numbers alone and a identical under arm seam edge, would I be safe in calling it a 100% match?
Scott

the underseam match you show on VIc 1.2.pdf looks pretty convincing to me. hopefully you can find more photos of the front of the jersey as well.

also are the thickness of the stitches making the stripes the same size? i cant tell from the photos. i own both a 2005 game issued and a 2008authentic majestic Yankee home jersey and there is a definite difference in the thickness of the stripes so that why i was wondering about that. Another possiblilty is the difference is due to the jersey being made from different years but I doubt that is the reason. The issued jersey has a thicker stripe that is noticable when put side to side with the authetic majestic jersey. i probably would not have known the difference otherwise.

this is an interesting read on pinstripes in the book Smithsonian Baseball on page 100-101 and I googled it online too.

Smithsonian Baseball

http://books.google.com/books?id=_ZZxXG89PAIC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=%22in+fact+all+pinstripe+uniforms,+are+unique%22&source=bl&ots=A5L6wdTDUM&sig=X3NdObAhl9hd8D9_SS3BO5thDNA&hl=en&ei=8TivSo-uIIb0sgOu2rDHCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

To a collector, there is no joy parallel to finding that elusive home-run ball, or a jersey worn by a legendary player. Smithsonian Baseball: Inside the World's Finest Private Collections celebrates the abiding passion for our national pastime, as witnessed by the dedication of the sport's most devoted collectors.The first book of its kind, Smithsonian Baseball features revealing stories and lavish photography highlighting 21 of the best private collections of baseball memorabilia in existence. From a rare copy of the first written rules of the game (1848) to Mark McGwire's record-shattering home-run ball (1998), these impressive collections span baseball's entire history. Some of the game's most historically significant artifacts are part of these private collections, yet most have never before been seen by the public. Marvel at the memorabilia as you read about the historical background of the objects and get to know each collector's passions and motivations. Some of the collections are all-encompassing; others focus on a specific era or type of memorabilia -- game-used bats, for example, or folk art, or celluloid pin-back buttons. One collection features only relics and memorabilia from the grand old ballparks of the past; another comprises items from overseas exhibition tours of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Some of the most valuable vintage photographs and advertising displays as well as the most sought-after baseball cards are in these collections, including the famous T206 Honus Wagner, the highest professionally graded set of 1915 Cracker Jacks, and a gem-mint condition 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle. A father-daughter collecting duo has an impressive collection of World Series scorecards and programs, dating back to the inaugural series in 1903.The book also includes seven "tips" essays. The hobby's leading experts offer advice on collecting and authenticating artifacts, and show how to build and organize your own impressive 19th-century memorabilia or baseball card collection. Weigh the benefits of having a general collection versus a very narrow one. Find out how to store and display your collectibles. Learn to distinguish between an original first-generation photograph versus a wire photo, a vintage jersey worn at home games as opposed to one worn on the road, a player's game-used bat and one made for retail sale -- and much, much more. It's the perfect gift for any baseball fan, young or old, a baseball collectible in its own right.

it talks about contact points at the seams, buttons and crest.

**jetersbatboy** · 09-15-2009, 02:39 AM

Re: Pinstripe Question???

Originally posted by joelsabi

this is an interesting read on pinstripes in the book Smithsonian Baseball on page 100-101 and I googled it online too.

Smithsonian Baseball

http://books.google.com/books?id=_ZZxXG89PAIC&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=%22in+fact+all+pinstripe+uniforms,+are+unique%22&source=bl&ots=A5L6wdTDUM&sig=X3NdObAhl9hd8D9_SS3BO5thDNA&hl=en&ei=8TivSo-uIIb0sgOu2rDHCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

To a collector, there is no joy parallel to finding that elusive home-run ball, or a jersey worn by a legendary player. Smithsonian Baseball: Inside the World's Finest Private Collections celebrates the abiding passion for our national pastime, as witnessed by the dedication of the sport's most devoted collectors.The first book of its kind, Smithsonian Baseball features revealing stories and lavish photography highlighting 21 of the best private collections of baseball memorabilia in existence. From a rare copy of the first written rules of the game (1848) to Mark McGwire's record-shattering home-run ball (1998), these impressive collections span baseball's entire history. Some of the game's most historically significant artifacts are part of these private collections, yet most have never before been seen by the public. Marvel at the memorabilia as you read about the historical background of the objects and get to know each collector's passions and motivations. Some of the collections are all-encompassing; others focus on a specific era or type of memorabilia -- game-used bats, for example, or folk art, or celluloid pin-back buttons. One collection features only relics and memorabilia from the grand old ballparks of the past; another comprises items from overseas exhibition tours of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Some of the most valuable vintage photographs and advertising displays as well as the most sought-after baseball cards are in these collections, including the famous T206 Honus Wagner, the highest professionally graded set of 1915 Cracker Jacks, and a gem-mint condition 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle. A father-daughter collecting duo has an impressive collection of World Series scorecards and programs, dating back to the inaugural series in 1903.The book also includes seven "tips" essays. The hobby's leading experts offer advice on collecting and authenticating artifacts, and show how to build and organize your own impressive 19th-century memorabilia or baseball card collection. Weigh the benefits of having a general collection versus a very narrow one. Find out how to store and display your collectibles. Learn to distinguish between an original first-generation photograph versus a wire photo, a vintage jersey worn at home games as opposed to one worn on the road, a player's game-used bat and one made for retail sale -- and much, much more. It's the perfect gift for any baseball fan, young or old, a baseball collectible in its own right.

it talks about contact points at the seams, buttons and crest.

Joel,
thanks for the add info, it make me feel alot better about my match!!!! I appreciate the help!!!!!!!
Scott

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