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  • Birdbats
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 1439

    2002 Pujols bat

    I recently acquired a 2002 Pujols game-used bat with a certificate from LaRussa's ARF dated 11/16/02. Included with the COA was the auction sheet that was displayed with the bat at the auction. I was told the photo on the auction sheet showed Pujols breaking the actual bat being auctioned. Here's the auction sheet:


    I was skeptical, so when the bat arrived, I tried to find the actual photo online. It wasn't a Getty shot, but I eventually found it searching images on Google. The best part was, the image online wasn't cropped and I could see bunting on the wall in the background. That tipped me off that the shot was taken during the post season.


    After more research, I learned the Cards played three home games during the post season in 2002. In two of those games (vs. SF in the LCS), Pujols used blue and white batting gloves and was clean shaven. But, in the other game -- game 3 of the DCS vs. Arizona -- everything matched up. Best of all, I found a shot on Getty of the same at-bat as the other photo from a different angle.



    Albert batted four times in that game on 10/5/02... walked twice, singled in the third and flew out in the fifth. Both batted balls went to center field, which is where he's looking in the top photo. I can't narrow this down to the single or the fly out, but I'm feeling good my bat was used for one (or both) of them.

    Here are a couple shots of the bat -- note the location of the crack relative to the photos above:




    There are a couple other pieces of into worth mentioning. First, Pujols didn't use uncupped ash bats often in 2002, so that really narrowed down the search. And second, Pujols received only 6 uncupped ash C243 bats in 2002 -- on September 13. Given the date of the game in the photos and the date of the auction, the time frame is appropriate.

    Other than the pine tar pattern and the location of the crack, there's not much else to go on in terms of a positive photo match. In the top photo, there seems to be quite a bit of writing on the knob, which also would be consistent with my bat. Without a higher-resolution photo, I can't say for sure. However, given the type of bat, the time frame, the provenance, the visual evidence and the odds that another unfinished/uncupped ash LS would break in the same location, I think my bat is the same bat in the photos.

    Jeff Scott
    birdbats@charter.net
    http://www.birdbats.com

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    • QuickSniper
      Junior Member
      • May 2009
      • 1

      Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

      I snagged Alex Rodriguez batting gloves and a Jorge Posada wristband at the end of a Yankees vs Blue Jays game in 2006.









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      • ewillia8
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 9

        Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

        Here is my photomatched 2007-08 Henrik Sedin Set 3 jersey. Notice the large stick mark next to the crest. That happened in the first game this jersey was worn.
        I haven't been able to find hi-res photos of games later in this set to match the other wear but this is pretty sweet.



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        • joelsabi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 3073

          Re: 2002 Pujols bat

          Originally posted by Birdbats
          I recently acquired a 2002 Pujols game-used bat with a certificate from LaRussa's ARF dated 11/16/02. Included with the COA was the auction sheet that was displayed with the bat at the auction. I was told the photo on the auction sheet showed Pujols breaking the actual bat being auctioned. Here's the auction sheet:


          I was skeptical, so when the bat arrived, I tried to find the actual photo online. It wasn't a Getty shot, but I eventually found it searching images on Google. The best part was, the image online wasn't cropped and I could see bunting on the wall in the background. That tipped me off that the shot was taken during the post season.


          After more research, I learned the Cards played three home games during the post season in 2002. In two of those games (vs. SF in the LCS), Pujols used blue and white batting gloves and was clean shaven. But, in the other game -- game 3 of the DCS vs. Arizona -- everything matched up. Best of all, I found a shot on Getty of the same at-bat as the other photo from a different angle.



          Albert batted four times in that game on 10/5/02... walked twice, singled in the third and flew out in the fifth. Both batted balls went to center field, which is where he's looking in the top photo. I can't narrow this down to the single or the fly out, but I'm feeling good my bat was used for one (or both) of them.

          Here are a couple shots of the bat -- note the location of the crack relative to the photos above:




          There are a couple other pieces of into worth mentioning. First, Pujols didn't use uncupped ash bats often in 2002, so that really narrowed down the search. And second, Pujols received only 6 uncupped ash C243 bats in 2002 -- on September 13. Given the date of the game in the photos and the date of the auction, the time frame is appropriate.

          Other than the pine tar pattern and the location of the crack, there's not much else to go on in terms of a positive photo match. In the top photo, there seems to be quite a bit of writing on the knob, which also would be consistent with my bat. Without a higher-resolution photo, I can't say for sure. However, given the type of bat, the time frame, the provenance, the visual evidence and the odds that another unfinished/uncupped ash LS would break in the same location, I think my bat is the same bat in the photos.

          super cool story, research.
          Regards,
          Joel S.
          joelsabi @ gmail.com
          Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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          • joelsabi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2005
            • 3073

            Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

            Originally posted by QuickSniper
            I snagged Alex Rodriguez batting gloves and a Jorge Posada wristband at the end of a Yankees vs Blue Jays game in 2006.









            nice piece. wouldnt this be a style match? i see one distinct marking on the index finger that could be used to photo match. what are you looking at specifically for the photo match?
            Regards,
            Joel S.
            joelsabi @ gmail.com
            Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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            • sportscentury
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 2008

              Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

              Originally posted by joelsabi
              nice piece. wouldnt this be a style match? i see one distinct marking on the index finger that could be used to photo match. what are you looking at specifically for the photo match?
              Unfortunately, this thread has been watered down with a bunch of stylematch postings lately. Some do not understand the difference. Others appear to just not care. The difference between a photomatch and stylematch in terms of authentication is staggering.
              Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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              • joelsabi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 3073

                Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                Originally posted by sportscentury
                Unfortunately, this thread has been watered down with a bunch of stylematch postings lately. Some do not understand the difference. Others appear to just not care. The difference between a photomatch and stylematch in terms of authentication is staggering.
                sportscentury,

                at least Birdbats understands.
                Regards,
                Joel S.
                joelsabi @ gmail.com
                Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                • Vintagedeputy
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3172

                  Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                  Originally posted by sportscentury
                  Unfortunately, this thread has been watered down with a bunch of stylematch postings lately. Some do not understand the difference. Others appear to just not care. The difference between a photomatch and stylematch in terms of authentication is staggering.
                  I also fail to see the photo match. Style match yes, unless I'm missing something.

                  What this post needs is a bunch of red circles!

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                  • joelsabi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 3073

                    Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                    Originally posted by sportscentury

                    Originally Posted by joelsabi
                    nice piece. wouldnt this be a style match? i see one distinct marking on the index finger that could be used to photo match. what are you looking at specifically for the photo match?

                    Unfortunately, this thread has been watered down with a bunch of stylematch postings lately. Some do not understand the difference. Others appear to just not care. The difference between a photomatch and stylematch in terms of authentication is staggering.
                    I actually want an answer on this. sometime it is a little stitch on a letter that is sticking out that is the distinct mark that the person is looking at. Kyle is a great example of a person with a great eye. So I am giving the person a chance to tell me what they are seeing.
                    Regards,
                    Joel S.
                    joelsabi @ gmail.com
                    Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                    • kylehess10
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 3100

                      Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                      Originally posted by sportscentury
                      I guess we define photomatch differently. I'm sure it's the same bat ... but I was asking to see the photomatch.

                      Here ya go:

                      kylehess941@hotmail.com

                      My Game Used Collection:
                      http://www.wix.com/kylehess941/gameused


                      http://www.kylehessphotography.com/

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                      • joelsabi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 3073

                        Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                        Originally posted by kylehess10
                        Here ya go:


                        Missed one other
                        Regards,
                        Joel S.
                        joelsabi @ gmail.com
                        Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                        • quiggle28
                          Banned
                          • May 2008
                          • 100

                          Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                          found a couple of photo-matches for rips and loose threads on this jersey.







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                          • both-teams-played-hard
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 2712

                            Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                            Originally posted by quiggle28
                            found a couple of photo-matches for rips and loose threads on this jersey.
                            Nice photo-match. Basketball jerseys are by far the hardest to photo-match in this hobby!

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                            • sportscentury
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2008

                              Gasol shirt

                              RE: Gasol shirt

                              Beautiful shirt, beautiful match.

                              Yes, hoops shirts are hard to photo-match ... but MeiGray's service makes it a ton easier.
                              Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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                              • quiggle28
                                Banned
                                • May 2008
                                • 100

                                Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

                                thanks both-teams-played-hard and sportscentury, I found these photos on http://www.daylife.com/

                                while not that large, there are some very nice quality photos on that site that might be able to help some of you with photo-matching, especially the Reuters ones that are not tagged like the GettyImages are.

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