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11-24-2005, 12:51 PM #1
Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
MEARS has this tagging as being from 1963-later. They also say they could always be off by a year or two as more info is discovered. Any opinions on this Musial jersey?
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11-24-2005, 10:51 PM #2
Re: Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
Sir
You either have a $10,000 jersey or a perfect forgery! Don't be tempted by ANY of the offers, I am sure you have received.
GOOD LUCK
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11-24-2005, 10:57 PM #3
Re: Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
Originally Posted by both-teams-played-hard
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11-24-2005, 11:41 PM #4
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Re: Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
Wow! Nuff said!
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11-24-2005, 11:49 PM #5
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Re: Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
Does anyone question this individual and how he came into possession of these extremely rare jerseys? Seems strange to me?????
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11-25-2005, 03:28 AM #6
Re: Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
Originally Posted by hof89
I am no expert and i have stayed away from game-used due to a threat from a 3rd party that a Cardinals game-used "expert" or two would hate on any game used stuff I acquired (because I stuck up for myself when I felt wronged by them). I just hoped they were at least store bought and undoctored jerseys from an older era which they appear to possibly be. Looks like I may have got lucky with the Musial jersey. Maybe.
The way I acquired these jerseys is because the people who sold them to me had no emotional connection to or interest in these jerseys. The sellers and I both knew there was an outside chance a few of these may have been used. The man who left the jerseys to them "was not a very nice person, and they had not hardly spoken to him much in years." Authentication takes time and $1500 for 5 jerseys and maybe they didnt care about seeing how much money they could make off of someone who hurt them in some sort of way. I can't pretend to totally know their personal business.
I was offered these jerseys after first seeing the Musial and talking to them about what they wanted for it. I told them I was hoping to buy the jersey and have Musial sign it at the cardinals fredbird blowout sale this weeking where Stan is signing autographs. They thought it was very cool I actually was going to be seeing Stan this weekend to get the jersey signed if they sold it to me, and they seemed to like the fact I was a young (still almost a kid) person who really sounded exited about the possibly of owning the possible game used musial jersey. They said I seemed to appreciate the jersey more than they ever could. I did not know about the other jerseys until after i had purshased the Musial and other baseball jersey. They had sensed my excitement and felt I would appreciate hearing about what other 3 jerseys they had. They told me the names of the players, the story behind the jerseys, about their bitterness towards the previous owner, and then a price. They knew the jerseys would be worth a LOT more if authentic (which the football ones may not be) and just did not care. It is not always about the money for some people. It was refreshing to see that, and boy am I glad I was the one they picked to sell these to.
They turned down much bigger $$$ by others who had seen the Musial jersey but had called them after I had called but before we agreed upon a price (according to them) and did not even tell the other people offering about the remaning jerseys. Sounds to me like people who were absolutely not about the money for a personal reason. I will post pics of the 5th jersey I bought if anyone can tell me what (IF ANY) tagging I should look for with a yellow game used Kansas City Athletics jersey from 1957. I am not playing games with anybody on this great forum and this is not some sort of prank. I believe the story behind these jerseys and all I can say is that there are a few people who I would not want to make a dime off of. Not a penny, no matter what the situation.
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11-25-2005, 03:48 AM #7
Re: Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
Originally Posted by scottanservitz
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12-02-2005, 12:08 AM #8
autographed
It is a shame Stan put a 5 on accident and he had to change it into a 6, but this jersey is a sweet looking jersey now, no matter what the authenticators say about if it was ever game worn by ANY cardinals player in the 60's.
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12-02-2005, 12:13 AM #9
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11-01-2006, 11:49 PM #10
Re: Stan Musial Possible 1962-1963 gamer
WARNING! THIS IS A RE-FRESHED YEAR OLD POST...
Back in the olden days, I sure was naive. I thought these jerseys were sold to this guy by an eldery couple, cause they wanted them to go to a "youngsportscollector". I just noticed the eBay watermark in the bottom corner of the tagging photo. I feel like a broke Sherlock Holmes for not noticing this 11 months ago. What a wild goose chase this forum was put on! I am embarressed by some of my comments on this thread. The chain-stitched name-in-tail seems to resemble many different "doctored" superstar baseball jerseys sold on eBay over the past year (Ripken, Munson, Carlton-everone remembers, right?) If we were told these were bought on eBay, it might have saved some time. Flash-forward to Vintage Authentics current auction:http://vintageauthentics.at.truition...aunbr=76378097
This shirt has re-appeared with LOAs from some of the hobby's finest. Now it's a coach's jersey with restored NOB and number. Does anyone have knowledge of Musial's coaching career with St. Louis?? Was this just added to the auction description to fit the age of the Rawlings tag and the logo change to "CARDINALS". Boy! I was a tool.
Also, is a MEARS "3" similar to an eBAY "?". Can anyone explain the dates autographed by Musial and Rose?