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  • jobathenut
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1085

    #16
    Re: Did I deserve this?

    I hate to take the other side on this as you guys have all ganged up on and bashed this seller.But i just went on there and the seller is a top rated seller.I mean they joined in 98 and still has 100% feedbacks.So the poeple that have bought from them don't seem to have the same problem with thier items.Maybe they take it as a insult being asked questions about thier items.That you should just assume what they are selling is authticate saying they have perfect feedback.I mean you would think by now if someone who bought their item had a question about it there would be a comment to it in thier feedback and there isnt from what i read.You guys can all gang up on me like you have them.But i think they just feel they should'nt be questions about a jerseys they are selling for under $200.I understand your questions and they are good ones.That whole game issued and game worn debate.And if a person who rides the bench is still considered game worn as they did where it during a game.They just didnt play in the actual game.I am just thinking why this person might have that rude reaction to your questions.I don't know why the person can not just be nice about ansewering the questions but some people get upset and take it as you are implying that thier items are not authentic when you ask them questions about thier items.

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    • jobathenut
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 1085

      #17
      Re: Did I deserve this?

      Before the grammer police come and get me.I am sorry for the run-on sentences.I forget sometimes that you get graded on forums.
      Originally posted by jobathenut
      I hate to take the other side on this as you guys have all ganged up on and bashed this seller.But i just went on there and the seller is a top rated seller.I mean they joined in 98 and still has 100% feedbacks.So the poeple that have bought from them don't seem to have the same problem with thier items.Maybe they take it as a insult being asked questions about thier items.That you should just assume what they are selling is authticate saying they have perfect feedback.I mean you would think by now if someone who bought their item had a question about it there would be a comment to it in thier feedback and there isnt from what i read.You guys can all gang up on me like you have them.But i think they just feel they should'nt be questions about a jerseys they are selling for under $200.I understand your questions and they are good ones.That whole game issued and game worn debate.And if a person who rides the bench is still considered game worn as they did where it during a game.They just didnt play in the actual game.I am just thinking why this person might have that rude reaction to your questions.I don't know why the person can not just be nice about ansewering the questions but some people get upset and take it as you are implying that thier items are not authentic when you ask them questions about thier items.

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      • STLHAMMER32
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 803

        #18
        Re: Did I deserve this?

        Originally posted by jobathenut
        I hate to take the other side on this as you guys have all ganged up on and bashed this seller.But i just went on there and the seller is a top rated seller.I mean they joined in 98 and still has 100% feedbacks.So the poeple that have bought from them don't seem to have the same problem with thier items.Maybe they take it as a insult being asked questions about thier items.That you should just assume what they are selling is authticate saying they have perfect feedback.I mean you would think by now if someone who bought their item had a question about it there would be a comment to it in thier feedback and there isnt from what i read.You guys can all gang up on me like you have them.But i think they just feel they should'nt be questions about a jerseys they are selling for under $200.I understand your questions and they are good ones.That whole game issued and game worn debate.And if a person who rides the bench is still considered game worn as they did where it during a game.They just didnt play in the actual game.I am just thinking why this person might have that rude reaction to your questions.I don't know why the person can not just be nice about ansewering the questions but some people get upset and take it as you are implying that thier items are not authentic when you ask them questions about thier items.
        Seller may take offense to the questioning but regardless what a terrible way to go about selling items. A kind response would likely not push away eventual sales and then this conversation would not even be taking place.

        By his response he is not only losing that potential sale but by word of mouth he has hurt potential sales for all who read the rude response he gave to a normal email. I know I won't consider him now and I am sure others will reconsider as well....Just a terrible way to do business.

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        • NYCrulesU
          Banned
          • Jul 2009
          • 232

          #19
          Re: Did I deserve this?

          I know I won't buy from him, ever. No need to be an ass to customers who are asking a genuinely honest question.


          Joba - In game used (because that's what we are talking about), if a seller gets offended by someone asking a question about an item for sale, the seller should seriously rethink the line of work he's in.

          Ask anyone here that's offered me items for sale, I ask a TON of questions. It's no way a knock on the seller, I'm just thorough. I want to know, to the best of my ability, that the item I am spending my hard earned money on is legit. I don't care how "big" the seller, any seller, thinks he is in this hobby. I ask the questions that will help me feel confident in the piece I am buying. No answer? Rude answer? No sale. It's fairly simple.

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          • platinum1
            Banned
            • Mar 2008
            • 878

            #20
            Re: Did I deserve this?

            Originally posted by jobathenut
            I hate to take the other side on this as you guys have all ganged up on and bashed this seller.But i just went on there and the seller is a top rated seller.I mean they joined in 98 and still has 100% feedbacks.So the poeple that have bought from them don't seem to have the same problem with thier items.Maybe they take it as a insult being asked questions about thier items.That you should just assume what they are selling is authticate saying they have perfect feedback.I mean you would think by now if someone who bought their item had a question about it there would be a comment to it in thier feedback and there isnt from what i read.You guys can all gang up on me like you have them.But i think they just feel they should'nt be questions about a jerseys they are selling for under $200.I understand your questions and they are good ones.That whole game issued and game worn debate.And if a person who rides the bench is still considered game worn as they did where it during a game.They just didnt play in the actual game.I am just thinking why this person might have that rude reaction to your questions.I don't know why the person can not just be nice about ansewering the questions but some people get upset and take it as you are implying that thier items are not authentic when you ask them questions about thier items.
            The #1 rule for buying game used items is to ask questions.
            If you cant answer a question with out being a jerk. Then why should
            I buy from you.
            It's just like buying from anywhere else. If you get rude service then you take your business somewhere else.

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            • jobathenut
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 1085

              #21
              Re: Did I deserve this?

              Guys i agree with all of you.That being rude in ansewering questions about your items is not very good customer service.Even if we are talking about on ebay.I was just saying what that person might take offense to.And that would explain why if they did respond so rude like that.Maybe they took it as "why are you questioning my item".I have had the same things happen to me when i used to be on ebay.Back when i was buying autograph items on there (and like all of you) i ask questions if i had a doubt.And sometimes i got the same rude comments back at me.And i have even got them as a seller also of autographs.I mean have'nt you guys ever got tired of someone asking questions,or maybe get upset that someone is questioning your item.I know its not what you say,but how you say it.And this seller just does'nt know how to respond correctly.And to ansewer the question-no you did'nt deserve it to me.But maybe the seller read your comments in a different way.And you guys might think this is a bad way to do buisness but seeing thier feedback they don't seem to hurting thier buisness.

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              • 34swtns
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 1120

                #22
                Re: Did I deserve this?

                Stop wasting your time typing. There's no defending that guy......at all.

                Joba, this is not directed solely at you, (you've had many positive and informative posts in the past but this one just put me over the edge of the cliff I've been standing at for a few weeks now). This is directed to all the people who just can't resist the urge to find an argument where their simply is none:
                I'll never understand why some people feel the need to take up a worthless cause. Don't waste your time and put yourself out there at the risk of making yourself look like an argumentative fool just for the sake of arguing with someone. You're not doing yourself any favors and you're certainly not casting the positive "I see both sides" spin on yourself that you think you are. Especially when the subject is simply cut and dry, open and shut.
                Honestly, there are people on this and every forum who do nothing but troll posts looking for something to argue about, regardless of how ridiculous there view might have to be in order to meet this end. From defending crazy people's rights to spend ridiculous amounts of money on things that those of us with common sense would never do to defending someone's right to act like a total a-hole towards their customers.
                You can pretend to be the "I go to bat for everybody" guy all you want, but know this......... You are defending FOOLS and therefore making yourself look foolish.
                So, I'm asking the 10 per cent of you here who seem to have a tendency to do this quite often.....pick your battles. And choose them wisely. Because a lot of the battles you've been choosing result in the other 90 per cent of us rolling our eyes and shaking our heads. Ask yourself, "is this opinion that I have going to make me look stupid to most paeople if I throw it out there......have I completely thought this through.......does the view I'm about to espouse fly in the face of common sense"? If the answer to any of those questions is 'yes' regarding something you're about to type then back away from the keyboard. Save some face, your reputation and a little dignity. Don't take up lost causes, you're not helping anyone and least of all, yourself.

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                • otismalibu
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1650

                  #23
                  Re: Did I deserve this?

                  OTISMALIBU-I just have to say thats not fair to say that saying you're selling off your collection somehow means something bad.
                  Sure, if you're actually selling your collection. If you're just flipping stuff, that's not selling off a collection. I've seen this guy list stuff, using the same auction pics from the auction where he just bought...before he even has the jersey in hand. And he's also told me via email, that he's customized/restored many jerseys.

                  There was an eBay seller from the Indy area, who had multiple selling IDs and was selling of his autograph collection. He went on for years, creating new IDs and the collection never disappeared. I'd say 75% of his items were signed magazine pages. Anyone want to guess how this collection was built? The guy's hand is probably still sore.
                  Greg
                  DrJStuff.com

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                  • mbenga28
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 555

                    #24
                    Re: Did I deserve this?

                    seeing how his prices correlates with the number on the jersey, do you think he might have any Arenas game jerseys prices at $0?

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                    • geoff
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1734

                      #25
                      Re: Did I deserve this?

                      I asked this Guy about A Jersey that He had on EBAY in The Past And he was just very Rude And even told me not to ask him anymore Questions about that Jersey.So I never even look at his Stuff He has up on EBAY at all.

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                      • mbenga28
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 555

                        #26
                        Re: Did I deserve this?

                        does he deliberately post fuzzy photos to block closer inspections on the jerseys for photomatches?

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                        • bigtruck260
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1729

                          #27
                          Re: Did I deserve this?

                          Originally posted by jobathenut
                          Before the grammer police come and get me.I am sorry for the run-on sentences.I forget sometimes that you get graded on forums.
                          Joba - of course, I am always cringing at grammar issues - but you, my friend have a lifetime pass with me.
                          Dave
                          Looking for 1990's STL Cardinal starting pitcher's bats
                          River City Redbird Authentics
                          http://www.freewebs.com/bigtruck260/

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                          • Texans
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 212

                            #28
                            Re: Did I deserve this?

                            I was interested in a couple of jersey before. He is rude. Not very friendly at all

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                            • ahuff
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 677

                              #29
                              Re: Did I deserve this?

                              I agree with most. This guy seems to be a pain to deal with, and like someone else said "I'd hate to deal with him if the item had issues when in hand). I can't recall ever dealing with him, but he has many jerseys that I would love to purchase. However, the combination of the blurry photos (might have worked 10 years ago but even my piece of junk cell phone takes better photos than those) and rude verbage in listings, makes me think twice. Now the comments that he has been known to alter uniforms is particularly alarming.
                              "We need rebirth of the American tradition of leadership ... in private life as well." "'Trust me' government asks that we concentrate our hopes and dreams on one man; that we trust him to do what's best for us. My view of government places trust not in one person or one party, but in those values that transcend persons and parties. The trust is where it belongs--in the people." - Ronald Reagan"


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                              • allstarsplus
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 3707

                                #30
                                Re: Did I deserve this?

                                Hoop-style has 486 items on eBay. All of them seem basketball related.

                                Then he has 2 "landing nets" and I wonder are those there to catch jerseys thrown into the stands ala Gilbert Arenas?

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