Manny Ramirez bat question

[Tedw9]

Can anyone tell me if Manny ever used a Nokona bat during the 2006 or 2007 seasons? I just purchased a bat with a PSA DNA coa that says it was used by Manny. The auction said it was game used, and with the coa, I thought it was a safe buy.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

[spartakid]

Re: Manny Ramirez bat question

Is it the Nokona with the Dominican flag and some tape near the knob that was for sale from the seller dolphinboy on ebay?

[spartakid]

Re: Manny Ramirez bat question

BTW this would be a good question for Bobby, the resident Manny expert, to answer.

[Tedw9]

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No, it's not the dolphinboy bat, it is this bat.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160403412975&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

[spartakid]

Re: Manny Ramirez bat question

Have you already paid for it?

[Tedw9]

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Yes I did. I thought with a PSA DNA coa it which had John Taubes name on it would be a safe bet.

I paid with Paypal so I do have some recourse if it turns out to be not used by Manny.

[spartakid]

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I'll start by saying that I'm not an expert on Manny bats, so don't take my word as law. But I saw this when it was on ebay and it just didn't look right to me (in terms of characteristics). Just because an item has PSA authentication doesn't mean it's always legit. It is usually better than no authentication, but you also have to do research on your own, that's the best "authentication" you can get. That's why it's usually a good idea to consult player experts and others for opinions before you buy a bat.

[MSpecht]

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Be sure to verify the PSA/DNA Cert number as well

http://www.psadna.com/verify.chtml

Mike

[Tedw9]

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Thanks for the feedback guys.

Mike, I did crosscheck the cert number before I bought the bat. The site had a good description and a nice closeup of the barrel on the site. The cert and bat matches up well.

I felt comfortable purchasing it because of what I had read here about John Taube and his expertise. But why I am asking now is because I have read that Manny never used Nokona in a game on some other threads here. I guess I am just getting mixed signals and am trying to clarify them so I can be more comfortable with my purchase.

[gamer35]

Re: Manny Ramirez bat question

Definitely not game used by Manny in a game as he never used Nokonas in a game with the Red Sox.

[gamer35]

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There also shouldnt be any ballmarks on the back of the barrel as Manny is a label up hitter. From the pics, it looks like there are ballmarks on the right barrel. The wear on the end of the barrel also doesnt match up...

[Tedw9]

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Well, it looks like I will be contacting the seller for a refund. I guess I put a little too much faith in the coa.

And just for reference, here is the PSA cert number....E36967

Thanks again everyone.

[soxfan]

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Has anyone seen or heard anything about these 2003 "Game Used" Manny bats with the MR24 Hologram and LOA from Manny himself?

I have had this bat for 6 years and cant find anything out about it....

Thanks!

Jeremy

macleodjeremy@hotmail.com

[Tedw9]

Re: Manny Ramirez bat question

I've been in email contact with John Taube explaining what is going on. I told him how some of the Manny collectors here didn't feel it was a Manny game used bat.

His questions to me were what were you reasons for thinking it was not used by Manny and did any of you see every at bat of Manny's in 2007?

Obviously I don't think anyone saw every at bat, but I would love to hear why you all believe it is NOT a Manny game used bat.

I am also in contact with Joe Orlando about this and will be sharing any information you all can give me with him.

Thank you for all the help everyone!

[Manram]

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The one thing i can tell right away(I am no manny collector) is that the characteristics are off. Pine tar, ball marks, etc